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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #820 on: February 11, 2022, 01:32:52 PM »
https://twitter.com/stevematthews12/status/1492174303193927684?s=21

Wages aren't going up at the same rate as CPI/CoL indexes, so people will either dig into savings/borrowing to sustain the same lifestyle, or they'll buy less.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #821 on: February 11, 2022, 01:35:11 PM »
Wages aren't going up at the same rate as CPI/CoL indexes, so people will either dig into savings/borrowing to sustain the same lifestyle, or they'll buy less.
Spending patterns also change as you get older. Many need/spend less.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #822 on: February 11, 2022, 01:49:29 PM »
Spending patterns also change as you get older. Many need/spend less.

Say what?

Do we have an aging/declining population like Japan, Russia, Germany (but for massive Arab refugees allowed in) and China?

Is deflation on the horizon?
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #823 on: February 11, 2022, 04:38:27 PM »
Is deflation on the horizon?
I feel like I’ve been hearing that since this thread was started a year ago.


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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #824 on: February 12, 2022, 07:29:49 PM »
I feel like I’ve been hearing that since this thread was started a year ago.

There are certain changes that take a while to materialize, and have a long lasting effect. The effect of changing demographics on the economy cannot be understated.

And what does the following tell you?

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #825 on: February 12, 2022, 07:42:09 PM »
And what does the following tell you?
CU's give a lot better rates?  :)
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #826 on: February 12, 2022, 08:04:01 PM »
CU's give a lot better rates?  :)
Are their 30+ year rates also lower than their 20 year rates?
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #827 on: February 12, 2022, 09:53:32 PM »
If we do end up with deflation, I am pretty sure @ExGingi will say "I told you so"

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #828 on: February 12, 2022, 10:29:15 PM »
If we do end up with deflation, I am pretty sure @ExGingi will say "I told you so"

I would need to live to that day...
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #829 on: February 13, 2022, 01:09:53 AM »
If we do end up with deflation, I am pretty sure @ExGingi will say "I told you so"

Modern deflation is when the inflation rate drops from 15% to 12%
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #830 on: February 13, 2022, 07:50:09 AM »
Modern deflation is when the inflation rate drops from 15% to 12%
Called disinflation.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #831 on: February 13, 2022, 11:09:56 AM »
If we do end up with deflation, I am pretty sure @ExGingi will say "I told you so"
Hard to imagine we won’t. The question is at what point? Reminds me of Biden bragging that gas is down 5 cents, when it is up a $1 over the last 12 months.



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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #833 on: February 13, 2022, 03:21:38 PM »
The original tweet and chart begs for some humor (go to the Dr. and take medicine at home to control your hunger, instead of driving to the restaurant and grocery shopping). But I found this response to (at least partially) be spot on:

https://twitter.com/MarkJParkerSr/status/1492830654681255938
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #834 on: February 13, 2022, 04:02:47 PM »
Keystone Pipeline sounds like a solution that Biden killed.

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #836 on: February 17, 2022, 11:53:20 AM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #837 on: February 18, 2022, 10:26:48 AM »
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #838 on: February 18, 2022, 01:07:25 PM »
and this:

https://twitter.com/MacroAlf/status/1494692077736763398

What happens to the housing component of CPI?

This seems inaccurate or a poor perspective. Seems like he is calculating median house value at newly obtained mortgage rate. But the median mortgage today is not the average of what people are paying - most mortgages in the US are not purchases from 2022. People bought 1-5-10-20 years ago and are locked in to 30 year mortgages at all time lows. They refi'd in 2021 and are paying less than they were previously. Doesn't matter if their house went up 300% overnight. If anything, lower mortgage payments and higher earnings for most homeowners is pretty good.

What it does matter to is new purchasers and new purchasers only, but this is not some huge impending crisis as the tweet makes it seem.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #839 on: February 18, 2022, 01:11:26 PM »
This seems inaccurate or a poor perspective. Seems like he is calculating median house value at newly obtained mortgage rate. But the median mortgage today is not the average of what people are paying - most mortgages in the US are not purchases from 2022. People bought 1-5-10-20 years ago and are locked in to 30 year mortgages at all time lows. They refi'd in 2021 and are paying less than they were previously. Doesn't matter if their house went up 300% overnight. If anything, lower mortgage payments and higher earnings for most homeowners is pretty good.

What it does matter to is new purchasers and new purchasers only, but this is not some huge impending crisis as the tweet makes it seem.

I am not arguing one way or the other, but interestingly I saw his response to this before I saw your post:

https://twitter.com/MacroAlf/status/1494730219227340801
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