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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #460 on: October 19, 2021, 10:35:37 PM »
Why isnít SS $ poured into the market or other investments?

Its mostly invested in US Debt

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #461 on: October 19, 2021, 11:08:56 PM »
Its mostly invested in US Debt
Isn't it all in US Government securities not traded or available to the public?
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #462 on: October 20, 2021, 07:09:23 AM »
Isn't it all in US Government securities not traded or available to the public?

Like I said... they hold IOUs not tradable bonds

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #463 on: October 20, 2021, 02:09:02 PM »
To answer the thread title, it might be far on the horizon, but in the meantime the deflationary forces are just so great that no inflation is in sight.

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #464 on: October 20, 2021, 02:10:04 PM »
This didn't age well...

Lol no one agreed with it then either

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #465 on: October 20, 2021, 02:14:54 PM »
Its mostly invested in US Debt

Is that an answer to Why not? Are you suggesting it's locked up because the government can't pull all that money out of US debt without causing ripples?

Otherwise, while US debt has historically been stable, the returns suck.

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #466 on: October 20, 2021, 02:18:24 PM »
Is that an answer to Why not? Are you suggesting it's locked up because the government can't pull all that money out of US debt without causing ripples?

Otherwise, while US debt has historically been stable, the returns suck.
You want them to invest in the stock market?
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #467 on: October 20, 2021, 02:19:43 PM »
Why isnít SS $ poured into the market or other investments?
It's too late now, the money is needed too soon, there is no way to guarantee a better return than bonds at this point. If the money was invested in the S&P 500 since the early days of SS there would be more than enough money to go around.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #468 on: October 20, 2021, 02:28:17 PM »
It's too late now, the money is needed too soon, there is no way to guarantee a better return than bonds at this point. If the money was invested in the S&P 500 since the early days of SS there would be more than enough money to go around.
If we all invested back then we wouldn't need SS.  :)
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #469 on: October 20, 2021, 02:46:48 PM »
Is that an answer to Why not? Are you suggesting it's locked up because the government can't pull all that money out of US debt without causing ripples?

Otherwise, while US debt has historically been stable, the returns suck.

There are laws that govern how the "trust fund" can be invested. The laws were not designed to chase returns but rather to ensure solvency.

We are now in the draw down phase... the fund is de-accumulating slowly. There's no reason to "pull all the money out" because most of the payout obligations are long-term, but the small amounts each year that need to be converted to cash must come either from budget dollars or from new debt sold to outside buyers. That's a big change from the years and years of borrowing from the trust fund.

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #470 on: October 20, 2021, 04:19:33 PM »
It's too late now, the money is needed too soon, there is no way to guarantee a better return than bonds at this point. If the money was invested in the S&P 500 since the early days of SS there would be more than enough money to go around.
There was talk in Washington (I think in the 90's) about letting SS invest some of their fund in the stock market but many were opposed and ultimately nothing came of it.

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #471 on: October 20, 2021, 04:46:34 PM »
There was talk in Washington (I think in the 90's) about letting SS invest some of their fund in the stock market but many were opposed and ultimately nothing came of it.
Would you really want the government investing our money?
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #472 on: October 20, 2021, 04:48:24 PM »
Would you really want the government investing our money?

States do it all the time. I think this was part of the fight to make ss private.

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #474 on: October 20, 2021, 06:34:39 PM »
This didn't age well...

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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #475 on: October 20, 2021, 06:41:17 PM »
It's too late now, the money is needed too soon, there is no way to guarantee a better return than bonds at this point. If the money was invested in the S&P 500 since the early days of SS there would be more than enough money to go around.

To me it sounds like a terrible idea to invest SS funds into the stock market. The massive sums of money invested would create a massive bubble in the market, eventually causing the mother of all crashes, killing the economy and being forced to liquidate shares at extremely depressed prices.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #476 on: October 20, 2021, 07:16:50 PM »
What does that tell us about inflation?
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #477 on: October 20, 2021, 07:17:45 PM »
What does that tell us about inflation?

Last time you checked recessions are deflationary.
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #478 on: October 20, 2021, 07:18:24 PM »
Last time you checked recessions are deflationary.
Unless they are stagflation
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Re: Is Hyperinflation On The Horizon?
« Reply #479 on: October 20, 2021, 07:50:03 PM »
Unless they are stagflation


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