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Up to $15,600 for illegals
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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2021, 11:10:47 AM »
Which documents are required to prove undocumented status ? :D

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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2021, 11:52:54 AM »
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On Wednesday, Mr. Cuomo praised the fund’s approval but sounded a skeptical note, saying that it was “a major concern” that the fund could be susceptible to fraud, although he did not offer specifics.

Mr. Cuomo — whose political power has weakened amid investigations into his handling of nursing homes during the pandemic and multiple allegations of sexual harassment — was unable to persuade lawmakers to include stricter requirements on eligibility.

Lawmakers who were involved in the negotiations said Mr. Cuomo had pushed for a rule that applicants provide an individual taxpayer identification number, which is used to process tax information for some people who are not eligible for a Social Security number.


Such a provision would have excluded many workers who had not applied for an identification number out of fear during the Trump administration, said Angeles Solis, an organizer at Make the Road New York who helped lead a coalition of groups that organized workers.


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Undocumented workers could receive up to $15,600, the equivalent of $300 per week for the last year, if they can verify that they were state residents, ineligible for federal unemployment benefits and lost income as a result of the pandemic....
 
The budget language lists the wide array of documents that workers can use to prove eligibility. Those include driver’s licenses and state-issued identification cards; birth certificates and school transcripts; utility bills and bank statements; a letter from an employer; pay stubs, wage statements or wage notices; and a previous W-2 or 1099 tax form.

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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2021, 11:54:16 AM »
The main concern here is that regular, legal citizens might try applying for this benefit, which would obviously be unfair.

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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2021, 12:02:38 PM »


The main concern here is that illegal immigrants might try applying for this benefit, which would obviously be unfair.

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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2021, 12:07:06 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/nyregion/covid-relief-undocumented-workers-nyc.html
“Fund Excluded Workers, a coalition of advocacy groups , had pushed for an even larger $3.5 billion fund. But much of the final negotiations in Albany focused on the eligibility restrictions MR. Cuomo sought, and the type of documents workers would need to show to apply.”

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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2021, 12:12:46 PM »
The main concern here is that regular, legal citizens might try applying for this benefit, which would obviously be unfair.
That will undoubtedly happen, but a bigger(?) concern for me is undocumented immigrants applying (and receiving) multiple times.
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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2021, 12:14:15 PM »
“The budget language lists the wide array of documents that workers can use to prove eligibility. Those include driver’s licenses and state-issued identification cards; birth certificates and school transcripts; utility bills and bank statements; a letter from an employer; pay stubs, wage statements or wage notices; and a previous W-2 or 1099 tax form.

Do illegals receive these ?

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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2021, 12:17:36 PM »
“On Wednesday, Mr. Cuomo praised the fund’s approval but sounded a skeptical note, saying that it was “a major concern” that the fund could be susceptible to fraud, although he did not offer specifics.”

He can start right here;
“Groups that support undocumented people said they plan to make sure that excluded workers who survive on a patchwork of jobs or are paid in cash or under the table and cannot easily provide proof of employment will not be left out.”

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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2021, 12:56:07 PM »
The main concern here is that regular, legal citizens might try applying for this benefit, which would obviously be unfair.

Unfair to whom? This entire handout is unfair to R voters :P
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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2021, 01:17:58 PM »
“Groups that support undocumented people said they plan to make sure that excluded workers who.. are paid in cash or under the table.. will not be left out.”
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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2021, 01:26:52 PM »
???
You surprised ? This is NY, Land of the Freebies-Home of the illegal & corruption. :)

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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2021, 01:28:58 PM »
Unfair to whom? This entire handout is unfair to R voters :P
R voters? this is unfair to any tax payer. Including those with only a tax ID
“The budget language lists the wide array of documents that workers can use to prove eligibility. Those include driver’s licenses and state-issued identification cards; birth certificates and school transcripts; utility bills and bank statements; a letter from an employer; pay stubs, wage statements or wage notices; and a previous W-2 or 1099 tax form.

Do illegals receive these ?
Sure. They cant have W2s , however they can have a 1099. However they arent requiring tax id numbers so i wonder how they can have a 1099? Will be interesting

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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2021, 01:30:50 PM »
R voters? this is unfair to any tax payer. Including those with only a tax ID Sure. They cant have W2s , however they can have a 1099. However they arent requiring tax id numbers so i wonder how they can have a 1099? Will be interesting
I’d love to see NYC enforce the requirements.

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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2021, 01:32:47 PM »
I’d love to see NYC enforce the requirements.
Have you tried getting anything from the city without every T crossed and I dotted? They are a huge PITA. Precisely why their last two rounds of rent relief has millions left over.

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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2021, 01:39:21 PM »
Have you tried getting anything from the city without every T crossed and I dotted? They are a huge PITA.
For legal citizens ? Sure. But nyc prides itself on not keeping track of illegals. “To protect them”

I’m all for this. Just let ICE distribute it. :)

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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2021, 02:38:09 PM »
R voters? this is unfair to any tax payer.

The Ds are happy to give away their money (tax dollars) and I'm fine with that, as long as they don't give away mine.

They cant have W2s , however they can have a 1099. However they arent requiring tax id numbers so i wonder how they can have a 1099? Will be interesting

Perhaps this refers to those with ITINs.

Have you tried getting anything from the city without every T crossed and I dotted? They are a huge PITA. Precisely why their last two rounds of rent relief has millions left over.

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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2021, 03:02:35 PM »
I'm fine with that, as long as they don't give away mine.
How would this work ?

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Re: Up to $15,600 for illegals
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2021, 03:11:44 PM »
How would this work ?

It doesn't work.

My point is that it's unfair to R voters who are against it. It isn't unfair to D voters because this is what they want as see as fair, equitable distribution of resources. Good for them but keep me out of it.
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