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Guilty?

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Guilty?
« on: April 20, 2021, 12:02:13 PM »
What do you think the jury will decide?
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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2021, 12:05:54 PM »
Hope so

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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2021, 12:06:27 PM »
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2021, 12:08:34 PM »
'Beyond reasonable doubt' is a high bar.
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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2021, 12:09:03 PM »
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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2021, 12:09:09 PM »
Why do you hope so?
To me it looked like a coldblooded murder and I hope the jury wasn't brainwashed otherwise.

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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2021, 12:09:21 PM »
'Beyond reasonable doubt' is a high bar.
Agree
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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2021, 12:12:26 PM »
To me it looked like a coldblooded murder and I hope the jury wasn't brainwashed otherwise.
Ouch! You think his "intent" was to murder/kill him?

They have options: Late Monday afternoon, the jury began deliberating whether Chauvin is guilty of second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.
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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2021, 12:14:02 PM »
Ouch! You think his "intent" was to murder/kill him?

Irrelevant. Unnecessary for a conviction.
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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2021, 12:14:18 PM »
Ouch! You think his "intent" was to murder/kill him?
His intent was to save his ego at any cost. Again, that's how it appears to me.

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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2021, 12:14:52 PM »
Irrelevant. Unnecessary for a conviction.
Not relevant to the charges?
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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2021, 12:15:03 PM »
When are they giving out their verdict ?

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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2021, 12:16:40 PM »
When are they giving out their verdict ?
As they say in Jamaica "soon come".  :)
Translation: don't hold your breath
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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2021, 12:48:44 PM »
I think we need more options.

I think he may be found guilty on the manslaughter charge but not-guilty on the murder charge, or there will be a hung jury on at least one of the charges.

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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2021, 01:04:39 PM »
As they say in Jamaica "soon come".  :)
Translation: don't hold your breath
Pun intended?

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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2021, 01:12:58 PM »
I think we need more options.

I think he may be found guilty on the manslaughter charge but not-guilty on the murder charge, or there will be a hung jury on at least one of the charges.
Isn't hung jury = not guilty?
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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2021, 01:17:39 PM »
Isn't hung jury = not guilty?
could, and probably would, be retried

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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2021, 01:58:37 PM »
Isn't hung jury = not guilty?
No. A not guilty verdict can never be appealed, a hung jury results in a mistrial which can then be re-tried.
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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2021, 02:18:42 PM »
I understood the poll to question if he will be found guilty or not, not if he will technically be found 'not guilty'
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Re: Guilty?
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2021, 03:01:55 PM »
Looks like Biden hopes the verdict is guilty
Or atleast that’s what the TelePrompTer told him to say