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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #120 on: April 29, 2021, 11:51:23 AM »
Those who started using it to describe Trump certainly did. And I think more than 1% certainly knew it was a Nazi reference, even if they didn't know the precise history of the term.
Will do a small unscientific test this weekend and will report back. My bet will be only my brother will know its origin.
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #121 on: April 29, 2021, 11:58:01 AM »
The phrase itself was coined by Hitler who said Jews created the lie blaming World War 1's loss on ... (I forget, not Googling, as per instructions  :)). The idea being the lie is so far removed from the truth, no one could possibly make it up and it must be true. Then the phrase was used to describe Goebell's propaganda about Jews in the years leading up to the Holocaust.
So Goebbels himself also used the concept against his enemies (Churchill/England). The application of the term to the tactics of the Nazis themselves (or the misattribution of Goebbels describing the big lie as a tactic he himself was using) is less established than Hitler/Goebbel's use. So I think it's strange to call out modern usage of the term for matters less severe than the lies that fed Nazism and the Holocaust. More appropriate might be to call out using the term to describe the actions of your enemy, since that's something the Nazis did.

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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #122 on: May 04, 2021, 06:14:44 PM »
IIRC Trump has used the phrase "big lie".



Let's see the Trumpsters here condemn him for 'invoking nazis'...
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #123 on: May 04, 2021, 11:34:49 PM »
Will do a small unscientific test this weekend and will report back. My bet will be only my brother will know its origin.
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #124 on: May 04, 2021, 11:37:08 PM »
IIRC Trump has used the phrase "big lie".
Source?
Donald J. Trump
10:27am May 3, 2021
The Fraudulent Presidential Election of 2020 will be, from this day forth, known as THE BIG LIE!

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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #125 on: May 05, 2021, 12:42:51 AM »
Donald J. Trump
10:27am May 3, 2021
The Fraudulent Presidential Election of 2020 will be, from this day forth, known as THE BIG LIE!

L'Chaim
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #126 on: May 05, 2021, 02:08:08 AM »
Donald J. Trump
10:27am May 3, 2021
The Fraudulent Presidential Election of 2020 will be, from this day forth, known as THE BIG LIE!

How do I sign up for a trip in your time machine?

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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #127 on: May 05, 2021, 02:10:46 AM »
How do I sign up for a trip in your time machine?
You don't. No need for me to search his past vile posts when we have one right there. Even in all CAPS!  :)
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #128 on: May 07, 2021, 05:11:41 PM »
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #129 on: May 08, 2021, 07:30:04 PM »
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #131 on: May 12, 2021, 10:35:25 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-republicans-oust-a-defiant-liz-cheney-for-her-repudiation-of-trumps-election-lies/ar-BB1gE9Ob?li=BBnb7Kz

That get rid of a true conservative because she wouldn't spread the big lie.
Haven't been following this drama, but here is another perspective of the why

Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #132 on: May 12, 2021, 10:39:51 AM »
Haven't been following this drama, but here is another perspective from a political hack of the why
FTFY
Now the top three House R's all voted not to certify the election but this has nothing to do with the big lie.  ::)
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #133 on: May 12, 2021, 10:41:34 AM »
FTFY
Now the top three House R's all voted not to certify the election but this has nothing to do with the big lie.  ::)
Maybe. Who is the non-polical hack here?
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #134 on: May 12, 2021, 10:44:11 AM »
Haven't been following this drama, but here is another perspective of the why

I doubt anybody genuinely believes that.
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #135 on: May 12, 2021, 10:48:38 AM »
I doubt anybody genuinely believes that.
Many do believe it. It is way to justify to themselves getting rid of a true conservative and pretend they don't support the big loser.
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #136 on: May 12, 2021, 11:13:30 AM »
Many do believe it. It is way to justify to themselves getting rid of a true conservative and pretend they don't support the big loser.
I should have qualified that no reasonable person believes that. That would exclude those who think Trump won the elections and Fauci caused Covid (which isn't dangerous anyways).
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #137 on: May 12, 2021, 11:20:06 AM »
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #138 on: May 12, 2021, 03:36:20 PM »
I no longer have constant Internet access, so you won't be seeing quite as much of me.

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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #139 on: May 12, 2021, 04:33:25 PM »
I doubt anybody genuinely believes that.

Then how do you explain why they didn't boot her out 4 months ago, but did now?