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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #80 on: April 28, 2021, 08:21:47 PM »
Oh, the irony.
The irony is when bills are passed to make it harder to vote you don't think it is voter suppression. That is pure Kool-aid drinking.
I on the other hand have already said when you pass  bills to make it easier to vote that also increases the chance of fraud.

One of us is not afraid to acknowledge both sides.
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #81 on: April 28, 2021, 08:25:30 PM »
By what definition is a law that enhances security while not impeding anyone's vote "suppresive"? If that's your definition of suppression, I have no problem supporting voter suppresion.
How does passing out water to voters standing in the hot sun waiting to vote enhance security.
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #82 on: April 28, 2021, 08:29:58 PM »
How does passing out water to voters standing in the hot sun waiting to vote enhance security.
In theory one can argue whoever is giving the water has undue influence. Though the utility of that law can justify the suppression, not make it not suppressive. There are bigger issues in the GA law that have no justification.
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #83 on: April 28, 2021, 08:30:04 PM »
How does passing out water to voters standing in the hot sun waiting to vote enhance security.
Do you know anyone that won’t vote because of that?
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #84 on: April 28, 2021, 08:41:07 PM »
Do you know anyone that won’t vote because of that?
It is a tactic the R's use thinking less people will vote.
How about them trying to stop early voting on Sunday? What fraud happens on Sunday but not Monday?
Get your head out of the sand. 
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #85 on: April 28, 2021, 10:06:11 PM »
'noun
noun: suppression
the action of suppressing something such as an activity or publication.'

Now define "suppress"

Do these laws "forcibly put an end to" voting or "prevent the development, action, or expression of (a feeling, impulse, idea, etc.); restrain." voting?

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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #86 on: April 28, 2021, 10:13:03 PM »
Now define "suppress"

Do these laws "forcibly put an end to" voting or "prevent the development, action, or expression of (a feeling, impulse, idea, etc.); restrain." voting?
I don't think you are dumb enough to still be drinking the Kool-aid so you must just be trolling.
You really think this is about voter fraud. These laws are being passed in R controlled states. If there is any fraud it would be by those in control.
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #87 on: April 28, 2021, 10:44:02 PM »
I don't think you are dumb enough to still be drinking the Kool-aid so you must just be trolling.
You really think this is about voter fraud. These laws are being passed in R controlled states. If there is any fraud it would be by those in control.
Why are you so sure of that?
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #88 on: April 28, 2021, 10:50:27 PM »
Why are you so sure of that?
That is the way the world has worked from the beginning of time.
Why we playing this silly game? We all know why both sides try to pass these laws.
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #89 on: April 28, 2021, 11:05:37 PM »

You really think this is about voter fraud.

I actually think that we should have one election day, with liberal exceptions for those who have a reason they can't make it on that day.

I think that voting laws should not be a one way ratchet, where it is only permissable to make them more lax, not the opposite.

I think that those who suggested that these laws are "Jim Crow on steroids" (Joe Biden) are cynical, divisive, opportunistic and make this country a worse place.

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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #90 on: April 28, 2021, 11:07:20 PM »
I actually think that we should have one election day, with liberal exceptions for those who have a reason they can't make it on that day.

I think that voting laws should not be a one way ratchet, where it is only permissable to make them more lax, not the opposite.

I think that those who suggested that these laws are "Jim Crow on steroids" (Joe Biden) are cynical, divisive, opportunistic and make this country a worse place.
The silly game continues!!!  ::)
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #91 on: April 29, 2021, 12:21:04 AM »


It is a tactic the R's use thinking less people will vote.

What would be the reasoning behind such thinking?
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #92 on: April 29, 2021, 06:00:44 AM »
Now define "suppress"

Do these laws "forcibly put an end to" voting or "prevent the development, action, or expression of (a feeling, impulse, idea, etc.); restrain." voting?
Inhibiting voting is restraining voting. Come on.
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #93 on: April 29, 2021, 07:20:46 AM »
There will always be fraud no matter what laws you pass.
Wide spread fraud that would effect the results is what has not been found. AKA: THE BIG LIE!!!

Do you know where the phrase The Big Lie originates?
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #94 on: April 29, 2021, 08:27:38 AM »
Do you know where the phrase The Big Lie originates?
Why does it matter?
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #95 on: April 29, 2021, 09:24:54 AM »
Do you know where the phrase The Big Lie originates?
It is not Friday so I can't use the "H" word. What is your point?
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #96 on: April 29, 2021, 09:33:14 AM »
Do you know where the phrase The Big Lie originates?

The speed in which this term got "kashered" and went mainstream is staggering
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #97 on: April 29, 2021, 09:36:12 AM »
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #98 on: April 29, 2021, 10:27:06 AM »
It is not Friday so I can't use the "H" word. What is your point?

To borrow a phrase, words matter. We've heard a lot over the Trump years about how using tropes and the like are harmful, even if not intended to offend. We've seen people get severely criticized and even lose their jobs for making comparisons to the Holocaust, slavery, etc. When borrowing phrases you invoke the source and are comparing Trump's election fraud lie to Hitler's propaganda which led to the Holocaust.

I'm not saying such expressions are always untouchable. If you want to call China's lies about their treatment of the Uighurs The Big Lie, for instance, I'd say that is apt. Even though it is not the Holocaust, it is concentration camps, ethnic cleansing, sterilization, and definitely heading in the direction of that ballpark.

It's especially jarring that people who claim to so sensitive about offending minorities and dismissing their experiences so as to avoid using any terminology that is might even be remotely offensive have no qualms about invoking the The Big Lie, concentration camps, Jim Crow, etc.
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Re: The demise of the Republican Party
« Reply #99 on: April 29, 2021, 10:43:44 AM »
To borrow a phrase, words matter. We've heard a lot over the Trump years about how using tropes and the like are harmful, even if not intended to offend. We've seen people get severely criticized and even lose their jobs for making comparisons to the Holocaust, slavery, etc. When borrowing phrases you invoke the source and are comparing Trump's election fraud lie to Hitler's propaganda which led to the Holocaust.

I'm not saying such expressions are always untouchable. If you want to call China's lies about their treatment of the Uighurs The Big Lie, for instance, I'd say that is apt. Even though it is not the Holocaust, it is concentration camps, ethnic cleansing, sterilization, and definitely heading in the direction of that ballpark.

It's especially jarring that people who claim to so sensitive about offending minorities and dismissing their experiences so as to avoid using any terminology that is might even be remotely offensive have no qualms about invoking the The Big Lie, concentration camps, Jim Crow, etc.
Can I ask you to explain in detail, without googling first, what you think The Big Lie refers to?