Should police have qualified immunity?

[Lurker]

That's all we have unless you also think he is going to be charged criminally.

Because now cops not facing criminal charges means they did nothing wrong?

[CountValentine]

So your only issue here is with people saying a PIT maneuver is use of deadly force?

I will take that as a rhetorical question.

[CountValentine]

Because now cops not facing criminal charges means they did nothing wrong?

In todays climate if they look at you the wrong way they get charged.

[Lurker]

In todays climate if they look at you the wrong way they get charged.

Yea.... No.

[yuneeq]

To play Devil's advocate, if someone murders someone else with a fork, they would be charged with murder (if there was intent). That doesn't mean that every time someone stabs someone with a fork it's a use of deadly force.

A cop doing a PIT maneuver at 60 mph can be compared to aiming/shooting at a perps arms/legs from 30 feet away. Both don't necessarily kill the person but can very easily lead to death. And both are deadly uses of force with the user attempting to make it less deadly with crude, imprecise techniques that lead to uncontrollable results. Neither should be used unless the person poses harm to the public if unimpeded, and with full consideration of people nearby/passengers.

[Lurker]

A cop doing a PIT maneuver at 60 mph can be compared to aiming/shooting at a perps arms/legs from 30 feet away. Both don't necessarily kill the person but can very easily lead to death. And both are deadly uses of force with the user attempting to make it less deadly with crude, imprecise techniques that lead to uncontrollable results. Neither should be used unless the person poses harm to the public if unimpeded, and with full consideration of people nearby/passengers.

That's not the point. The point is that which charges would be brought isn't a rayah that it's deadly force.

[yuneeq]

That's not the point. The point is that which charges would be brought isn't a rayah that it's deadly force.

Agree, wasn't arguing with your post

[aygart]

https://twitter.com/MitchellMcCoy/status/1561474959347970048

[WonderingYid]

https://twitter.com/MitchellMcCoy/status/1561474959347970048

Paid leave?

[aygart]

Paid leave?

There is no way for anything more than that before a real investigation.

https://www.kark.com/crime/arkansas-state-police-investigating-arrest-in-crawford-county/

https://twitter.com/MitchellMcCoy/status/1561551910355755008

[WonderingYid]

There is no way for anything more than that before a real investigation.

https://www.kark.com/crime/arkansas-state-police-investigating-arrest-in-crawford-county/

https://twitter.com/MitchellMcCoy/status/1561551910355755008

We investigation ourselves and found no wrongdoing.

[CountValentine]

There is no way for anything more than that before a real investigation.

Why not unpaid leave?

[S209]

There is no way for anything more than that before a real investigation.

Are you kidding me?! Arrest these animals and hold them without bail until there’s a real investigation.

It’s good that sometimes there are those who manage to capture and keep video so people can stop denying police abuse exists.

[yuneeq]

Why not unpaid leave?

Are you kidding me?! Arrest these animals and hold them without bail until there’s a real investigation.

It’s good that sometimes there are those who manage to capture and keep video so people can stop denying police abuse exists.

Does your suggested punishments conflict with their union agreement? My guess is yes. And I hate it as much as you do.

[CountValentine]

Does your suggested punishments conflict with their union agreement? My guess is yes. And I hate it as much as you do.

I am going to guess no. Anyone can be fired on the spot even a USPS employee who has one of the strongest unions.