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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2021, 11:30:54 AM »
Still the first question should be is the story true. The rest is just smoke.
Is the source for this an Iranian official?

It's a leaked tape, not like he is an official presenting a story that he is likely to lie.

My point was we had this tape and then two responses came from the Kerry camp: A) Kerry saying it is not true, he didn't say anything. B) Rhodes and others saying he did tell them, but it was already public knowledge. That's not "smoke", they can't both be true.

He has publicly sided with Iran over Israeli interests, but let's still wonder if maybe the story is a lie because ... why exactly? The first link you saw was the NY Post?

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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2021, 11:33:52 AM »
It's a leaked tape, not like he is an official presenting a story that he is likely to lie.
It’s a leak tape of a 3.5h press interview
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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2021, 11:37:51 AM »
He has publicly sided with Iran over Israeli interests, but let's still wonder if maybe the story is a lie because ... why exactly? The first link you saw was the NY Post?
I am going to guess you believe BO sided with Iran over Israeli interest's also. Would that be a good guess?
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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2021, 11:56:41 AM »
I am going to guess you believe BO sided with Iran over Israeli interest's also. Would that be a good guess?
Are you referring to the Iran Nuclear Disaster or something else entirely ?

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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2021, 12:04:21 PM »
Are you referring to the Iran Nuclear Disaster or something else entirely ?
Just a general question. Like Kerry siding with Iran.
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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2021, 12:08:09 PM »
Are you referring to the Iran Nuclear Disaster or something else entirely ?
My assumption was he was referring to the pallets of cash Israel asked BO to send to Iran.....

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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2021, 12:08:31 PM »
I am going to guess you believe BO sided with Iran over Israeli interest's also. Would that be a good guess?

It's not an opinion, it's a matter of public policy.

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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2021, 12:14:02 PM »
Is anybody surprised by this ? That despicable human being was constantly trying to undermine a sitting administration.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/241120

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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2021, 12:22:21 PM »
It's not an opinion, it's a matter of public policy.
We will just disagree. D or R (president, house or senate) will always support Israel.
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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2021, 12:24:39 PM »
Is anybody surprised by this ? That despicable human being was constantly trying to undermine a sitting administration.
Source:  PA officials
You can't make this stuff up.  :)
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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2021, 12:25:40 PM »
Maybe Brian Nahed can clear it all up.

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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2021, 12:30:17 PM »
Maybe Brian Nahed can clear it all up.
Please provide links so Google doesn't get flooded.

Look if you want to use Iran and PA officials as reliable sources then that is the goalposts we will use going forward. Just don't flip-flop on me.
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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2021, 12:31:48 PM »
Hilarious to see the same people who complained about everyone in the Trump administration now out there defending this despicable man till the end.

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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2021, 12:33:16 PM »
We will just disagree. D or R (president, house or senate) will always support Israel.

Generalities like "will always support Israel" don't cover over the major public fights and disagreements, including a historic vote in the UN. You're ignoring facts or uninformed, this is simply not a matter of debate.

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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2021, 12:35:38 PM »
Hilarious to see the same people who complained about everyone in the Trump administration now out there defending this despicable man till the end.
Who would that be?
1 - I didn't complain about everyone in the Trump admin.
2 - I have not and probably never will defend Kerry. If he did what they say he did while Trump was president then he is a scumbag.
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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2021, 12:40:02 PM »
Generalities like "will always support Israel" don't cover over the major public fights and disagreements, including a historic vote in the UN. You're ignoring facts or uninformed, this is simply not a matter of debate.
When push comes to shove Israel is one of our major allies and we will always support them over Iran. Does that mean we agree with everything they do, NO!!!

I guess that makes me uninformed or maybe it just makes me objective.
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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2021, 12:52:29 PM »
If I remember correctly at the time Kerry lied and said he did not meet with the Iranians, until pictures got out.

He also made a very questionable claim regarding that picture of him without a mask on a plane. (Something like "If I took it off, it was just for a second," something that was contradicted by witnesses.) So his credibility when denying something like this is somewhat less than perfect.

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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2021, 01:01:29 PM »
When push comes to shove Israel is one of our major allies and we will always support them over Iran. Does that mean we agree with everything they do, NO!!!

I guess that makes me uninformed or maybe it just makes me objective.

Obama's policies simply don't line up with your statement. It's a matter of historical fact. He didn't hide it, Kerry didn't hide it.

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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2021, 01:08:34 PM »
something that was contradicted by witnesses
Source?
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Re: John Kerry
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2021, 01:09:29 PM »
If I remember correctly at the time Kerry lied and said he did not meet with the Iranians, until pictures got out.

He also made a very questionable claim regarding that picture of him without a mask on a plane. (Something like "If I took it off, it was just for a second," something that was contradicted by witnesses.) So his credibility when denying something like this is somewhat less than perfect.
Well he is Kerry the flip-flopper, after all.