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Re: Fuzzy Math - Personal Finances In The Frum World
« Reply #160 on: April 29, 2021, 11:05:59 AM »
Don't forget "Non-Taxable Stimulus payments", Non-taxable forgivable PPP.

Tax refund or payment is really meaningless, as it's just a matter of how much was prepaid in taxes. What matters are the tax credits, especially the refundable ones.

I don't think temporary things like that are helpful in the big picture. This is what's kept me from filling out the form. My situation during Covid is temporary, and post-Covid will definitely be different than pre-Covid, so my personal data is pretty useless.
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Re: Fuzzy Math - Personal Finances In The Frum World
« Reply #161 on: April 29, 2021, 11:09:04 AM »
I think there should be a column for notes/explanation

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« Reply #162 on: April 29, 2021, 11:10:48 AM »
I don't think temporary things like that are helpful in the big picture. This is what's kept me from filling out the form. My situation during Covid is temporary, and post-Covid will definitely be different than pre-Covid, so my personal data is pretty useless.
I think putting in your pre-covid info would be useful.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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« Reply #163 on: April 29, 2021, 11:11:36 AM »
I think there should be a column for notes/explanation

+1, like if your tuition cost is different because you're a teacher.
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« Reply #164 on: April 29, 2021, 11:12:56 AM »
I think putting in your pre-covid info would be useful.

Possibly, but it's more than likely my income won't reach those levels for a little while, and some of my expenses will be adjusted accordingly (some significantly).
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Re: Fuzzy Math - Personal Finances In The Frum World
« Reply #165 on: April 29, 2021, 11:15:34 AM »
Line 10 is making 25k take home a month and takes 1k a month from their parents while they have a surplus of almost 10k a month???

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« Reply #166 on: April 29, 2021, 11:15:59 AM »
Possibly, but it's more than likely my income won't reach those levels for a little while, and some of my expenses will be adjusted accordingly (some significantly).
The point of this is to get an snapshot of how people live. A snapshot that is not 100% current is still a good data point.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Fuzzy Math - Personal Finances In The Frum World
« Reply #167 on: April 29, 2021, 11:16:59 AM »
Line 10 is making 25k take home a month and takes 1k a month from their parents while they have a surplus of almost 10k a month???
Parental support may not be in the form of cash.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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« Reply #168 on: April 29, 2021, 12:43:52 PM »
@MarkS thank you very much for taking initiative. Can you please add RF/Saving.

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Re: Fuzzy Math - Personal Finances In The Frum World
« Reply #169 on: April 29, 2021, 01:04:20 PM »
I don't think temporary things like that are helpful in the big picture. This is what's kept me from filling out the form. My situation during Covid is temporary, and post-Covid will definitely be different than pre-Covid, so my personal data is pretty useless.

That's exactly my point, as מאמינים בני מאמינים, there is always something temporary and unexpected coming from somewhere (or going somewhere).
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Re: Fuzzy Math - Personal Finances In The Frum World
« Reply #170 on: April 29, 2021, 01:13:24 PM »
#14 has 8 kids in school/childcare but childcare costs are only $1,100. I would love to know how to pull that off.
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« Reply #171 on: April 29, 2021, 01:15:47 PM »
#14 has 8 kids in school/childcare but childcare costs are only $1,100. I would love to know how to pull that off.
We need another form for people to answer questions anonymously. Ask for their row #, copy/paste of the question, and their answer
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« Reply #172 on: April 29, 2021, 01:17:40 PM »
#14 has 8 kids in school/childcare but childcare costs are only $1,100. I would love to know how to pull that off.

And the $550 housing cost, with a $36k surplus.
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« Reply #173 on: April 29, 2021, 01:18:24 PM »
We need another form for people to answer questions anonymously. Ask for their row #, copy/paste of the question, and their answer

That's a much bigger ask, but maybe worth a try.
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« Reply #174 on: April 29, 2021, 01:19:20 PM »
That's a much bigger ask, but maybe worth a try.
The answers can go in another sheet. It shouldn't be such a big project IMO...
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« Reply #175 on: April 29, 2021, 01:23:54 PM »
The answers can go in another sheet. It shouldn't be such a big project IMO...

The ask isn't in the sheet creation, it's in getting answers people are possibly more reluctant to give.
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« Reply #176 on: April 29, 2021, 01:26:25 PM »
The ask isn't in the sheet creation, it's in getting answers people are possibly more reluctant to give.
Ah. Well that probably depends on the question...
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« Reply #177 on: April 29, 2021, 01:28:52 PM »
Ah. Well that probably depends on the question...
"Ummm... I see you have a sizable surplus. Can you spare any maaser for me?"

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« Reply #178 on: April 29, 2021, 01:42:31 PM »
"Ummm... I see you have a sizable surplus. Can you spare any maaser for me?"

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