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PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #80 on:** August 17, 2021, 03:45:40 AM »

Quote from: sguitarist18 on August 15, 2021, 09:44:12 PM

1)It was 2 months between my response and your post, so I'll give you a pass on not reading your own post that I was responding to. You were talking about more than religion. I'd also add that many liberals have beliefs that are religion-style, despite the lack of an actual god.

Liberal beliefs are based on reason and logic, not based on blindly observing a higher power (which their beliefs in many parts are completely fantastical and not true).

Your attempt to draw a parallel is absurd.

Quote from: sguitarist18 on August 15, 2021, 09:44:12 PM

2) Source of this data?

It is widely available and undisputed. GIYF. Look at average income, obesity, lifespan, and any other metric you can think of.

Where Republicans win is birth rate, which is again motivated by religion, and crime, which is one end by of the democrat coalition but is completely distinct from the white liberals who are setting most of the tone.

yuneeq · « **Reply #81 on:** August 17, 2021, 07:55:35 AM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on August 17, 2021, 03:45:40 AM

Liberal beliefs are based on reason and logic, not based on blindly observing a higher power (which their beliefs in many parts are completely fantastical and not true).

Liberals believe in 72 genders and counting. Science. Gender is fluid, him, her, it, they, xir. Science. BLM riots are peaceful and don’t spread COVID. Science. My body, my choice, babies aren’t real anyways. Science. Unlimited welfare brings prosperity. Science. Blacks aren’t responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime. Science.

aygart · « **Reply #82 on:** August 17, 2021, 08:27:56 AM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on August 17, 2021, 03:45:40 AM

Liberal beliefs are based on reason and logic,

"Feelings don't care about your facts"

sguitarist18 · « **Reply #83 on:** August 17, 2021, 10:58:15 AM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on August 17, 2021, 03:45:40 AM

Your attempt to draw a parallel is absurd.

I'm sorry that you feel the need to resort to insults. I'm going to respond to your points, since i'm basing my responses on logic, and then I'm out. Once you depart from debate to insults, there's no longer a conversation.

From my perspective there is a definite parallel - in particular when it comes to belief in science vs belief in a god, many will choose to believe that science will ultimately disprove any evidence for god, even if that isn't the case yet. That's an irrational belief, fueled by a desire to not believe in god.

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on August 17, 2021, 03:45:40 AM

Liberal beliefs are based on reason and logic, not based on blindly observing a higher power (which their beliefs in many parts are completely fantastical and not true).

Agree to disagree. In my experience, liberal beliefs are based on feeling good and virtue signaling.

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on August 17, 2021, 03:45:40 AM

It is widely available and undisputed. GIYF. Look at average income, obesity, lifespan, and any other metric you can think of.

Just looked it up. Not sure where you get your data from, but the first few results I found are far from proving your point. I'd say there's at least some evidence some evidence in both directions, including quite a bit that points to conservatives being more successful.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2017/10/24/10-financial-well-being-personal-characteristics-and-lifestyles-of-the-political-typology/
https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-in-debt/economic-demographics-democrats/

And in areas like education, I'd point out that in rural areas, practical knowledge may be more valuable than a 4-year liberal-arts education.

Another point brought up by some of the research there is military service for our country, where conservatives far outweigh liberals.

You pointed out crime as well, I didn't quite understand your explanation of why that doesn't count.

Regarding health, here's the first result of my google: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/unique-everybody-else/201902/are-conservatives-healthier-liberals

In terms of life expectancy there's some evidence that liberals live longer, though I haven't seen an explanation for why.

And studies show that conservatives tend to be happier.

That's all for me.

yesitsme · « **Reply #84 on:** August 17, 2021, 11:48:45 AM »

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1427622088723009548

yuneeq · « **Reply #85 on:** August 18, 2021, 01:03:35 AM »

Quote from: sguitarist18 on August 17, 2021, 10:58:15 AM

I'd say there's at least some evidence some evidence in both directions, including quite a bit that points to conservatives being more successful.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2017/10/24/10-financial-well-being-personal-characteristics-and-lifestyles-of-the-political-typology/
https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-in-debt/economic-demographics-democrats/

Don't forget that all Republicans are rich old white males

sguitarist18 · « **Reply #86 on:** August 18, 2021, 11:05:53 AM »

Quote from: yuneeq on August 18, 2021, 01:03:35 AM

Don't forget that all Republicans are rich old white males

When that's convenient to the narrative, yes. That's actually how they're born. In red states, the Labor and Delivery unit is actually in the Geriatric unit.

yesitsme · « **Reply #87 on:** August 18, 2021, 07:55:54 PM »

https://twitter.com/Yochidonn/status/1428108475108839434

yesitsme · « **Reply #88 on:** August 19, 2021, 08:09:20 PM »

Please explain

https://twitter.com/DYShor/status/1428508828635705347

yesitsme · « **Reply #89 on:** August 19, 2021, 08:14:58 PM »

https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1428384493170139144

Kobe Bryant · « **Reply #90 on:** August 19, 2021, 10:37:07 PM »

https://twitter.com/RetiredOrrin/status/1428201138512408584

YitzyS · « **Reply #91 on:** August 19, 2021, 10:52:10 PM »

Invalid Tweet ID

yesitsme · « **Reply #92 on:** August 22, 2021, 12:25:02 AM »

https://twitter.com/Yochidonn/status/1429297254817574918

yesitsme · « **Reply #93 on:** August 22, 2021, 02:49:08 AM »

https://twitter.com/Yochidonn/status/1429332018417053696

avromie7 · « **Reply #94 on:** August 22, 2021, 08:49:21 AM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on June 16, 2021, 08:56:12 AM

There is perception bias that amplifies views of mine you disagree with, but on the whole the Republican stance is predicated on religion and emotions like hate and fear so tends to make less sense (indeed their voters are drastically less talented/capable/accomplished by almost any metric used). Yes, it is easier for me to respect believers in Darwin than believers in the Trinity. I would still usually vote Republican on the whole because lower taxes are more important to me.

Empathy
Pro freedom
Anti Christianity

I know it's been a while since this post, but i just saw it now.

This is incredibly insulting and it's the reason this country is so divided. While there are hateful people in both sides, on the right they are a very small minority and not mainstream.

Have you ever even tried to understand the logic in republican positions? Or do you always assume they're just evil? Take economic policy, the left is very empathetic, but empathy doesn't solve problems. The fact is economic freedom brought the most people out of poverty, it's progress the world has made over the last century that the left refuses to acknowledge. It is the places without economic freedom that have the highest poverty rates.

Instead of trying to argue logically, the left will always paint the right as not caring about the poor when in reality the right wants to give the poor every opportunity they can to succeed on their own and not be reliant on the government.

How can you expect both sides to work together when one side doesn't want to discuss the ramification of the policies at hand, instead they'd rather paint the other side as evil. How can you expect anyone to have a civil debate with people who don't want to talk reason and only want to convince the public that their opponents simply hate them.