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To locate missing relatives:

Ezer Metzion hotline: 036144660
They have reps on the ground at all of the hospitals.

 Zaka form to locate missing relatives
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Nahriya Hospital Emergency Hotline: 1255141
Nahriya Hospital: 049850505
(12 injured)

Ziv (Tzefat) hospital: 046828838
Ziv Emergency Hotline: 1255161
(41 patients, of which 14 in serious condition, and some already released)

Poriyah Hospital: 046652211
Poriyah Hospital Emergency Hotline: 1255162
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Rambam Hospital in Haifa (still receiving patients transferred from Ziv)

(7 patients, of which 4 in serious condition)

Hadassah Ein Kerem Hospital in Jerusiam

Police Meron HQ - 110

Missing people hotline *1201

"Due to the many people in the United States that are frantically trying to contact loved ones who were in Meron and have been unable to locate them, Misaskim has opened their command center to try and assist people." Please call 718-854-4548 ONLY if you are missing an immediate family member and need assistance.
 



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There is intermittent cell service reception around Meron. Many people are safe but stranded as roads are closed. 30 kids are in a police holding facility in search of family members.

𝐈𝐧 𝐥𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐠𝐞𝐝𝐲 𝐢𝐧 𝐌𝐢𝐫𝐨𝐧, 𝐄𝐌𝐀 𝐂𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐢𝐬 𝐬𝐞𝐭𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐮𝐩 𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐯𝐢𝐝𝐮𝐚𝐥  𝐏𝐓𝐒𝐃 𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐫𝐠𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐲 𝐬𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐬𝐞 𝐚𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐠𝐞𝐝𝐲!

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #621 on: October 31, 2021, 01:41:42 AM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #622 on: November 22, 2021, 02:15:25 PM »
Interim report and recommendations of commission

Amongst the recommendations is not allowing food or drink distribution (as per headlines, but details say allow drinks - which IMHO can actually cause a greater fall and slip hazard).



As a side note for the techies 'round here, that's some filename given to this report...
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #623 on: November 22, 2021, 02:40:10 PM »
As a side note for the techies 'round here, that's some filename given to this report...
Was thinking the same thing.
רקע - קבר הרשבי והילולת לג בעומר במירון
This section is very accurate - they clearly did their homework

Quote
עלה כי מספר האנשים המרבי שניתן להכיל בו זמנית
בשטח בצורה בטיחותית הוא 000,20 בקירוב
I mean...this is the obvious solution...will it actually happen?

ג)3 .)עידוד תחלופה של הקהל בשטח ההר
This section has absolutely nothing about how you will get people off the mountain when their time is up.
I think the only way would be to stop everything and clear the whole mountain


אנו ממליצים כי בשנת תשפב תיערך במהלך ההילולה הדלקה מרכזית אחת בלבד, על גג הציון, על ידי
האדמור מבויאן. עוד אנו ממליצים כי טקס ההדלקה שייערך יהיה קצר, כפי שהיה נהוג בעבר.
Wow...this would be a big change
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #624 on: November 22, 2021, 03:34:53 PM »
Was thinking the same thing.
רקע - קבר הרשבי והילולת לג בעומר במירון
This section is very accurate - they clearly did their homework
I mean...this is the obvious solution...will it actually happen?

Side question. Why did it get to Boyan and not Sadigura (for example)?

ג)3 .)עידוד תחלופה של הקהל בשטח ההר
This section has absolutely nothing about how you will get people off the mountain when their time is up.
I think the only way would be to stop everything and clear the whole mountain

With enough awareness and preparation, it is 100% doable IMHO. For example color coded wristbands. With enough preparation and awareness, people will view anyone there beyond their time as causing סכנת נפשות כפשוטו, it will simply be socially unacceptable (on a level that will put COVID-19 to shame) to be there at an undesignated time.

אנו ממליצים כי בשנת תשפב תיערך במהלך ההילולה הדלקה מרכזית אחת בלבד, על גג הציון, על ידי
האדמור מבויאן. עוד אנו ממליצים כי טקס ההדלקה שייערך יהיה קצר, כפי שהיה נהוג בעבר.
Wow...this would be a big change

Kind of brings to mind today's היום יום.



If the הדלקה is about what it is supposed to be, rather than about חזקות and כבוד, this is a non-issue. And on the contrary - הנה מה טוב ומה נעים שבת אחים גם יחד is a major theme or רשב"י and רבי עקיבא.

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #625 on: November 22, 2021, 04:52:33 PM »
Amongst the recommendations is not allowing food or drink distribution (as per headlines, but details say allow drinks - which IMHO can actually cause a greater fall and slip hazard).
What's gonna be with the אַמעריקאַאַנע קאַאַווע?
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #626 on: November 22, 2021, 08:46:59 PM »
What's gonna be with the אַמעריקאַאַנע קאַאַווע?

Never heard of that when I was in Meron for Lag BaOmer 36 years ago.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #627 on: November 22, 2021, 08:50:23 PM »
Never heard of that when I was in Meron for Lag BaOmer 36 years ago.
Ever heard of Reb Shayela Kerestirer back then? There are new times nowadays, every yurtzeit needs a commercial kitchen nearby.

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #628 on: November 22, 2021, 08:53:13 PM »
Ever heard of Reb Shayela Kerestirer back then? There are new times nowadays, every yurtzeit needs a commercial kitchen nearby.

TBH, the first time I heard of Reb Shayela Ketestirer was when I had mice in my house.

So where's the commercial kitchen today (the Mezritcher Maggid's Yahrzeit)?
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #629 on: November 22, 2021, 08:56:58 PM »
TBH, the first time I heard of Reb Shayela Ketestirer was when I had mice in my house.

So where's the commercial kitchen today (the Mezritcher Maggid's Yahrzeit)?
I'm sure there is, in Anipuli

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #630 on: November 22, 2021, 10:37:09 PM »
I'm sure there is, in Anipuli
I was there 3-4 years ago, there was not even a minyan.

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #631 on: November 22, 2021, 11:16:30 PM »
I was there 3-4 years ago, there was not even a minyan.
Wow

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #632 on: November 22, 2021, 11:23:42 PM »
I was there 3-4 years ago, there was not even a minyan.
Similar experience about 10 years ago, but I wasn't there on the Yahrtzeit.

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #633 on: November 22, 2021, 11:34:14 PM »
Similar experience about 10 years ago, but I wasn't there on the Yahrtzeit.
A whole lot has changed since 10 years ago. Even Kerestir, the now major attraction had a 6 ft ceiling bunker for an Ohel back then. The amount of people traveling lately has quadrupled. But correct, Anipoli still doesn't have no facilities for visitors.

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #634 on: November 23, 2021, 01:30:56 PM »
A whole lot has changed since 10 years ago. Even Kerestir, the now major attraction had a 6 ft ceiling bunker for an Ohel back then. The amount of people traveling lately has quadrupled. But correct, Anipoli still doesn't have no facilities for visitors.
Anipoli has a hachnasas orchim building with a mikva right by the entrance to the beis hakvaros. Was up and running at least 8 years ago.
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #635 on: November 23, 2021, 01:58:29 PM »
Side question. Why did it get to Boyan and not Sadigura (for example)?

One of the rebbes ancestors bought the rights to the main (at that time, i beleive, the only) hadlaka at some time during the 1800s

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #636 on: November 23, 2021, 02:01:59 PM »
One of the rebbes ancestors bought the rights to the main (at that time, i beleive, the only) hadlaka at some time during the 1800s

Wasn't that ancestor the Ruzhiner?

Here's a possible answer: https://chl.co.il/viewtopic.php?p=359272&sid=922dfe5e7043aecad1b8c5fffd1ca18a#p359272 (there are other opinions/versions in that thread).
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #637 on: November 23, 2021, 02:49:57 PM »
Anipoli has a hachnasas orchim building with a mikva right by the entrance to the beis hakvaros. Was up and running at least 8 years ago.
Right, I see it here. I heard from someone who just returned that there's nothing there, was likely talking in comparison to Barditchov. Mezibuzh, Zytomir etc.

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #638 on: November 24, 2021, 09:03:20 PM »
Anipoli has a hachnasas orchim building with a mikva right by the entrance to the beis hakvaros. Was up and running at least 8 years ago.
I don't know if I would call it a "hachnosas orchim building" but there's a structure with a mikvah. There's a phone number you can call for someone from the village to bring a fresh towel, the sign states NOT to tip that person for some reason (I guess because they already pay them and don't want them to start asking people for money?).

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #639 on: November 24, 2021, 09:17:35 PM »
I don't know if I would call it a "hachnosas orchim building" but there's a structure with a mikvah. There's a phone number you can call for someone from the village to bring a fresh towel, the sign states NOT to tip that person for some reason (I guess because they already pay them and don't want them to start asking people for money?).
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