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In order to assist foreigners entering Israel the Israeli immigration authority has opened the email to assist with applications harigim-natbag@piba.gov.il


To locate missing relatives:

Ezer Metzion hotline: 036144660
They have reps on the ground at all of the hospitals.

 Zaka form to locate missing relatives
 https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfDymRMlF7HeFilw0k1kk3mE1phFR1d4qAvSVWGmS_D5Ekaxw/viewform


Nahriya Hospital Emergency Hotline: 1255141
Nahriya Hospital: 049850505
(12 injured)

Ziv (Tzefat) hospital: 046828838
Ziv Emergency Hotline: 1255161
(41 patients, of which 14 in serious condition, and some already released)

Poriyah Hospital: 046652211
Poriyah Hospital Emergency Hotline: 1255162
(27 patients)

Rambam Hospital in Haifa (still receiving patients transferred from Ziv)

(7 patients, of which 4 in serious condition)

Hadassah Ein Kerem Hospital in Jerusiam

Police Meron HQ - 110

Missing people hotline *1201

"Due to the many people in the United States that are frantically trying to contact loved ones who were in Meron and have been unable to locate them, Misaskim has opened their command center to try and assist people." Please call 718-854-4548 ONLY if you are missing an immediate family member and need assistance.
 



Link to Zaka form to locate missing relatives
 https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfDymRMlF7HeFilw0k1kk3mE1phFR1d4qAvSVWGmS_D5Ekaxw/viewform



There is intermittent cell service reception around Meron. Many people are safe but stranded as roads are closed. 30 kids are in a police holding facility in search of family members.

𝐈𝐧 𝐥𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐠𝐞𝐝𝐲 𝐢𝐧 𝐌𝐢𝐫𝐨𝐧, 𝐄𝐌𝐀 𝐂𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐢𝐬 𝐬𝐞𝐭𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐮𝐩 𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐯𝐢𝐝𝐮𝐚𝐥  𝐏𝐓𝐒𝐃 𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐫𝐠𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐲 𝐬𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐬𝐞 𝐚𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐠𝐞𝐝𝐲!

Anyone who is emotionally affected by this tragedy can sign up for our service at EMA Care, and we can help you get through this trauma.
This service is entirely voluntary and therefore 𝐅𝐑𝐄𝐄. Sessions will be completely anonymous.

𝐀𝐧𝐨𝐧𝐲𝐦𝐨𝐮𝐬 𝐒𝐢𝐠𝐧 𝐮𝐩 𝐇𝐄𝐑𝐄 - https://lnkd.in/d9Bp8Jw
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #400 on: May 02, 2021, 09:42:18 AM »

The million dollar question everybody is trying to figure out is what was that pressure keeping them back in figure 1.

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #401 on: May 02, 2021, 09:43:52 AM »
Show the video evidence but you won’t find any.

The video below seems to show ppl leaning on something unable to progress. What are they leaning on? why are they unable to progress?

https://imgur.com/aTeioKH

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #404 on: May 02, 2021, 09:47:33 AM »


Israel on Sunday marked a national day of mourning over the Meron tragedy that killed 45 people, including over a dozen children and Bochrim, in the country’s deadliest-ever civilian disaster.

Flags were lowered to half-staff and ceremonies were expected at the Knesset and army bases.

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #405 on: May 02, 2021, 09:48:26 AM »
The video below seems to show ppl leaning on something unable to progress. What are they leaning on? why are they unable to progress?
They're stuck behind others crushed underneath them. This is already after the surge falling down.

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #406 on: May 02, 2021, 09:51:23 AM »
The video below seems to show ppl leaning on something unable to progress. What are they leaning on? why are they unable to progress?

They were tangled and unable to get out...Watch this graphic clip for a better closer angle.
https://streamable.com/wub3xj

Literally couldn't even get close without stepping on people like the guy on the floor at 0:13
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #407 on: May 02, 2021, 09:59:55 AM »
They were tangled and unable to get out...Watch this graphic clip for a better closer angle.
https://streamable.com/wub3xj

Literally couldn't even get close without stepping on people like the guy on the floor at 0:13
How did they get tangled in the first place? Seems like something was blocking them beforehand

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #408 on: May 02, 2021, 10:01:34 AM »
How did they get tangled in the first place? Seems like something was blocking them beforehand

Refer to the infographic from @PlatinumGuy
One person falling near the steps would've caused the whole pileup.
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #409 on: May 02, 2021, 10:05:07 AM »
Refer to the infographic from @PlatinumGuy
One person falling near the steps would've caused the whole pileup.
The million dollar question everybody is trying to figure out is what was that pressure keeping them back in figure 1.

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #410 on: May 02, 2021, 10:07:37 AM »
Here is a graphic video from the beginning of the pileup, where you can clearly see the cops arriving after people started dying.
People who didn’t realize what was happening assumed it was the police blocking.

https://streamable.com/gam5na
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #411 on: May 02, 2021, 10:09:13 AM »
Refer to the infographic from @PlatinumGuy
One person falling near the steps would've caused the whole pileup.
This is what  some are misunderstanding. Nothing needed to be blocked for this to happen.
This tragic event will be made more tragic if this is not understood and the necessary changes are not made.
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #412 on: May 02, 2021, 10:09:30 AM »
The million dollar question everybody is trying to figure out is what was that pressure keeping them back in figure 1.
That’s not a question, it’s obvious the pressure was because the passage way was narrow and people couldn’t get out fast enough.

People weren’t crushed by pressure until there was a pileup that blocked people behind them. The first people who fell had enough space to fall on their back.
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #413 on: May 02, 2021, 10:11:07 AM »
The million dollar question everybody is trying to figure out is what was that pressure keeping them back in figure 1.

Not sure I understand your question. Please explain a little more.
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #414 on: May 02, 2021, 10:11:42 AM »
This is what  some are misunderstanding. Nothing needed to be blocked for this to happen.
This tragic event will be made more tragic if this is not understood and the necessary changes are not made.
100%. I am waiting for the deceased to be buried before posting my take, but the bottom line is there are many culprits so everybody can plausibly blame whoever they want to.
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #416 on: May 02, 2021, 10:14:08 AM »
https://twitter.com/menishwartz/status/1388744416765034498

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #417 on: May 02, 2021, 10:15:00 AM »
Not sure I understand your question. Please explain a little more.
Figure 1 suggests you need static pressure from the sides to keep everyone in place. The group can be moving as one also keeps them in place (upright).
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #418 on: May 02, 2021, 10:16:02 AM »
https://twitter.com/iairLevy/status/1388737693991976960
You can see people lying in a pile on the floor at the cops legs. The cops arrived after that pile was formed.

Yair Levy is a well known idiot.

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #419 on: May 02, 2021, 10:17:36 AM »
Figure 1 suggests you need static pressure from the sides to keep everyone in place. The group can be moving as one also keeps them in place.

Gotcha. You can also see some 3d modeling showing how these things can happen even without any front blockages.
https://www.gkstill.com/CV/Modelling/CrowdCollapse.html
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