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In order to assist foreigners entering Israel the Israeli immigration authority has opened the email to assist with applications harigim-natbag@piba.gov.il


To locate missing relatives:

Ezer Metzion hotline: 036144660
They have reps on the ground at all of the hospitals.

 Zaka form to locate missing relatives
 https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfDymRMlF7HeFilw0k1kk3mE1phFR1d4qAvSVWGmS_D5Ekaxw/viewform


Nahriya Hospital Emergency Hotline: 1255141
Nahriya Hospital: 049850505
(12 injured)

Ziv (Tzefat) hospital: 046828838
Ziv Emergency Hotline: 1255161
(41 patients, of which 14 in serious condition, and some already released)

Poriyah Hospital: 046652211
Poriyah Hospital Emergency Hotline: 1255162
(27 patients)

Rambam Hospital in Haifa (still receiving patients transferred from Ziv)

(7 patients, of which 4 in serious condition)

Hadassah Ein Kerem Hospital in Jerusiam

Police Meron HQ - 110

Missing people hotline *1201

"Due to the many people in the United States that are frantically trying to contact loved ones who were in Meron and have been unable to locate them, Misaskim has opened their command center to try and assist people." Please call 718-854-4548 ONLY if you are missing an immediate family member and need assistance.
 



Link to Zaka form to locate missing relatives
 https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfDymRMlF7HeFilw0k1kk3mE1phFR1d4qAvSVWGmS_D5Ekaxw/viewform



There is intermittent cell service reception around Meron. Many people are safe but stranded as roads are closed. 30 kids are in a police holding facility in search of family members.

𝐈𝐧 𝐥𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐠𝐞𝐝𝐲 𝐢𝐧 𝐌𝐢𝐫𝐨𝐧, 𝐄𝐌𝐀 𝐂𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐢𝐬 𝐬𝐞𝐭𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐮𝐩 𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐯𝐢𝐝𝐮𝐚𝐥  𝐏𝐓𝐒𝐃 𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐫𝐠𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐲 𝐬𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐬𝐞 𝐚𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐠𝐞𝐝𝐲!

Anyone who is emotionally affected by this tragedy can sign up for our service at EMA Care, and we can help you get through this trauma.
This service is entirely voluntary and therefore 𝐅𝐑𝐄𝐄. Sessions will be completely anonymous.

𝐀𝐧𝐨𝐧𝐲𝐦𝐨𝐮𝐬 𝐒𝐢𝐠𝐧 𝐮𝐩 𝐇𝐄𝐑𝐄 - https://lnkd.in/d9Bp8Jw
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #522 on: May 03, 2021, 04:36:05 PM »
Father and son thanking officer who saved their lives.


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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #523 on: May 03, 2021, 04:53:10 PM »
Mrs Sue Koltai, mother of Azi Koltai A"H forwarded these words of chizuk to us to share. 

(The Koltais are sitting shiva at their home Hakablan 22 floor number 5  10:00am -1:00pm  5:00pm -10:00pm)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In Heaven a great fire is roaring. Angels sway, and sages hold hands and dance, "Amar Reb Akiva, Amar Reb Akiva..."

Where is the king of the night, the great sage Rebi Shimon bar Yochai?

He leaves the circle, he is shaking shuddering...

Whoosh! At the entrance to Heaven, a clamour.

Neshamos start to fly inside:

A yeshiva bachur

A singer from Monsey

A chassan

Two little brothers

A young father

Another young father

A grandfather

A 14-year-old boy and his 9-year-old brother..

The fire sputters, the song dies. Reb Shimon rushes over and embraces the neshamos.

They blink in the light. They look at one another. Disoriented, confused, bewildered, but filled with an immeasurable light.

"Come with me, come says Reb Shimon.

"Us?"

"Yes, you, Yerushalmi, Litvak, grandfather,

Gerrer, Skverer, Mizrachi, Sfardi.."

They follow him, looking down, down, beyond the haze and the clouds where a huge crowd is stranded on a bleeding mountaintop.

"Why us?" It is the nine-year-old.
But they know, each one of them; they've accomplished their goals. They feel light, whole, they can see the completion of their individual tafkids.

Slowly, the fire comes to light again. They take hands again, the Chafetz Chaim and the Berdicheve and Avraham Avinu and David Hamelech and Avrohom Daniel Ambon and Moshe Bergman and Yonoson Chevroni and Yedidyia Chiyuis and Eliahu Cohen and Yossi Cohen and Simcha Bunim Diskind and Chen Doron and Moshe Mordechai and Yosef Dovid Elchad-Sharf and Yehoshua and Moshe Natan Englander and Mordcha Yoel Fekete and Yedidya Asher Fogel and Elazar Gefner and Shragi Gestetner and Daniel Morris and Eliezar Mordechai Goldberg and Yosef Greenbaum and Eliezer Tzvi Joseph and Nachman Kirshbaum and Shmuel Zvi Klagsbald and Menachem Knoblowitz and Eliezer Yitzchok Koltai and David Krause and Shlomo Zalman Leibowitz and Yosef Yehuda Levi and Yishai Me'ulam and Moshe Levy and Yosef Mastorov and Shimon Matlon and Chaim Rock and Yehuda Leib Rubin and Chaim Ozer Seller and Moshe Ben Shalom and Elkana Shila and Chanoch Solod and Dov Steinmetz and Yaakov Elchanan Strakovsky and Yosef Amram Tauber and Ariel Tzadik and Moshe Tzarfati and Menachem Asher Zeckbach.
 

All of them dance together.


Light, unity, joy.

Even as they dance, these newly-arrived neshamos, even as their rise to the greatest heights, they see all the way down to those who don't understand.

Those who are pained, who stumble, who don't know why or what.

Those who still keep themselves distant from their brothers, those who stray.

"Amar Reb Akiva, Amar Reb Akiva the neshamos sing, and slowly a halting melody replaces the age-old song. A song just 10 years old, composed by one among them "Chamol chamol chamol al amecha, racheim, racheim, racheim al nachlasecha, chisa na krov rachmecha.."

We have goodness and gladness and light, but have mercy on your children down belown

"Chaneinu vaneinu...

Kol tuv,

Sue Koltai

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #524 on: May 03, 2021, 05:01:43 PM »
WOW!!

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #525 on: May 03, 2021, 05:02:43 PM »
I wonder if maybe personal tzaros and communal tzaros should be looked at differently.
Rav Gamliel was menachem the Kohn family and said something like this; the family needs to be mekabel that Hashem is tzadik v'yashar and the tzibbur needs to do teshuvah(if I followed correctly).

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #527 on: May 03, 2021, 07:08:14 PM »


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Amar Reb Akiva, Amar Reb Akiva the neshamos sing, and slowly a halting melody replaces the age-old song. A song just 10 years old, composed by one among them "Chamol chamol chamol al amecha, racheim, racheim, racheim al nachlasecha, chisa na krov rachmecha.."
 

We have goodness and gladness and light, but have mercy on your children down belown

"Chaneinu vaneinu...

Beautiful!

Only after posting this song sang so nicely by Shragi Gestetner I realized how it resonates so well with this tragedy.. Whenever this tragedy comes to mind I find myself singing this soulful part..

Listening to him singing so nicely חמול על עמיך is so heart wrenching :'(

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cl7nhpf1lqk0l4s/Video%20Apr%2030%2C%201%2003%2031%20AM.mp4?dl=0

(Sefirah music alert)

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #528 on: May 03, 2021, 07:46:28 PM »
https://collive.com/boy-won-a-trip-to-meron-as-a-prize-for-learning-he-never-came-home/
 :'( :'(  :'( :'(  :'( :'(  :'( :'(  :'( :'(  :'( :'(
:'(  :'( :'(

Is it not worth it to limit the attendance at Meron to 3,000 (for example) at a time, decided partially by a goiral or something?

ETA: Today's Daf....
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #529 on: May 03, 2021, 08:25:55 PM »
Rav Gamliel was menachem the Kohn family and said something like this; the family needs to be mekabel that Hashem is tzadik v'yashar and the tzibbur needs to do teshuvah(if I followed correctly).
That's correct.  He told the family that they are b'tzar, they don't have to do teshuva.  It's us that needs to
#TYH

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #532 on: May 03, 2021, 08:50:43 PM »
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #533 on: May 03, 2021, 11:24:59 PM »
:'(  :'( :'(

Is it not worth it to limit the attendance at Meron to 3,000 (for example) at a time, decided partially by a goiral or something?

ETA: Today's Daf....

That won't work - look at what happened last year.  Too many people see Meron as "their place" , as evidenced by all of the tents set up there every year.  It is on a mountain with many off road access points, making blocking access nearly impossible.

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #536 on: May 04, 2021, 09:58:54 AM »
Do you not think that a tragedy like this a warning? A sign of anger?
Isn't that what we are supposed to take from this?

I am asking genuinely because I would love to think otherwise.
Well R' chaim kanievsky said that women should strengthen their tznius.

Somehow that always is the answer

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #537 on: May 04, 2021, 10:00:15 AM »
Well someone said in R' Chaim Kanievsky's name that women should strengthen their tznius.

Somehow that always is the answer

FTFY
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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #538 on: May 04, 2021, 10:06:13 AM »
FTFY
You don't trust his son?

You think he would lie what his father said?

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Re: Tragedy In Meron!
« Reply #539 on: May 04, 2021, 10:11:23 AM »
You don't trust his son?

You think he would lie what his father said?

I don't know who said what. All I know is that I get 10 emails a day telling me things that R' Chaim supposedly said. It's worse than Baal Shem Tov stories. At least those all have the possibility of being true.
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