Menschlichkeit Tips and Tricks

[YitzyS]

And on how you word your reply

"I'm trying to reach the doctor for a semi emergency and I can't find his cell number. Can you check your contacts and send it to me?" "I'm busy, but I'll get back to you next week." BAD.

"I would like to have my taxes filed sometime this month. Do you think you could do them for me?" "I'm busy, but I'll get back to you next week." GOOD.

[tzifanya54]

Not saying please and thank you in kosher food establishments. Huge pet peeve of mine. I hear it all the time "gimme 2 slices" or a little better but still bad "I will take the burger". Is it really that difficult to add the please? I think its more prevalent in heimishe food places, than lets say a supermarket, like there is no need for manners in those places because its frum people??

[grodnoking]

Not saying please and thank you in kosher food establishments. Huge pet peeve of mine. I hear it all the time "gimme 2 slices" or a little better but still bad "I will take the burger". Is it really that difficult to add the please? I think its more prevalent in heimishe food places, than lets say a supermarket, like there is no need for manners in those places because its frum people??

My brother worked in a store in Lakewood and noticed everyday a woman would come in and place her order without looking up from her phone. One day he didn't take the order and when she asked if it was ready he said "oh, sorry I didn't realize you were talking to me, I thought since you were on your phone the whole time you were talking to the phone" (or something to that effect). She got the hint.

[YitzyS]

My brother worked in a store in Lakewood and noticed everyday a woman would come in and place her order without looking up from her phone. One day he didn't take the order and when she asked if it was ready he said "oh, sorry I didn't realize you were talking to me, I thought since you were on your phone the whole time you were talking to the phone" (or something to that effect). She got the hint.

It is absolutely imperative for people to say please and thank you, and to speak respectfully. However, there is also an issue in some establishments that the proprietor needs a big dose of menchlichkeit lessons. Many places are great. But there are some that are just terrible in the attitude aspect.

[yelped]

@YitzyS DDF DO to see which place needs lessons in Menschlichkeit? 

[YitzyS]

@YitzyS DDF DO to see which place needs lessons in Menschlichkeit? 

Nah. As soon as I find the Lashon Harah thread, I'll tell you which places. TimT?

[TimT]

As soon as I find the Lashon Harah thread, I'll tell you which places. TimT?

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?board=11.0
Take your pick

[Yehuda57]

[Don't] criticize [something] without having the courtesy of offering a suggestion on how to fix it.

[S209]

Don’t ask a doctor for free medical advice while [he’s] on vacation.

[moko]

Don’t ask a doctor for free medical advice while [he’s] on vacation.

does that apply strictly to Drs or all professions?

[WAM]

Only doctors that are also the chazzan, magician and mohel.

[YitzyS]

Menschlichkeit Tip: Don't hijack a second thread to talk about a topic that the forum owner stopped by locking the original thread. 

[aygart]

Some of my largest clients have come through free advice given in non business settings.

[yelped]

Some of my largest clients have come through free advice given in non business settings.

Which is why a Dr, for example, is different. A off the cuff meeting is not a business opportunity for them.

[AsherO]

Some of my largest clients have come through free advice given in non business settings.

My guess is you mean free advice in an area other than your Parnassah. Someone once told
me: “I’ll do all kinds of favors for people, but never in the field in which I earn my livelyhood, for that I expect to get paid”.

[Alexsei]

https://www.accidentaltalmudist.org/humor/2021/04/27/a-doctor-and-a-lawyer-meet-in-synagogue/

[jj1000]

Which is why a Dr, for example, is different. A off the cuff meeting is not a business opportunity for them.

Depends on the specialty.

I think it's like anyone you ask a favor from, you can ask politely but don't have expectations.

It's the expectation of free care that's the problem I think.

[AsherO]

Depends on the specialty.

I think it's like anyone you ask a favor from, you can ask politely but don't have expectations.

It's the expectation of free care that's the problem I think.

The other thread was locked, can we please move on and stick to the topic here?

[aygart]

Which is why a Dr, for example, is different. A off the cuff meeting is not a business opportunity for them.

There are many cases where someone ends up at a different doctor in a different location than a where they currently live

My guess is you mean free advice in an area other than your Parnassah. Someone once told
me: “I’ll do all kinds of favors for people, but never in the field in which I earn my livelyhood, for that I expect to get paid”.

Incorrect. I didn't perform a whole analysis, but it was the free advice where they saw what they were missing elsewhere.

[aygart]

The other thread was locked, can we please move on and stick to the topic here?

This is exactly the topic instead of being about a specific case where we don't know details that an individual felt they didn't get something they were entitled to.