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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2021, 11:00:56 AM »
Very, very, very big difference.
Even if there is a difference in the intention of posting it is still very, very, very insensitive.

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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2021, 11:03:21 AM »
Even if there is a difference in the intention of posting it is still very, very, very insensitive.

I don't disagree. The difference is that for those sites, this is business as usual. Here, you're throwing out the baby and the bathwater because a bug landed in it. It's not what DDF is.
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #42 on: May 03, 2021, 12:08:44 PM »
The entire metzius of those sites is about shoving the most provocative headlines and images in your face for clicks. Here, there are a few threads which share that material. It's a miniscule portion of what goes on here, and it's very easy to avoid within the forum if you want.


I didn't mean that the entire ddf is like that. But it definitely changed since I started out here.

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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #43 on: May 03, 2021, 12:10:35 PM »

I didn't mean that the entire ddf is like that. But it definitely changed since I started out here.
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #44 on: May 03, 2021, 12:19:52 PM »

I didn't mean that the entire ddf is like that. But it definitely changed since I started out here.

As does everything in life. The beauty of DDF is you can pick and choose what you'd like to engage on and what you want to ignore. Here you can also be the change you'd like to see. One example is the shift of focus from Covid to financial responsibility. If you want to see more of the old school DDF, bring it back.
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #45 on: May 04, 2021, 12:44:26 PM »


Why would these pictures have been shared? (Who took them?)
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #46 on: May 04, 2021, 12:48:59 PM »
I have heard that R' Mattisyahu said that watching videos of retzicha is bad for the neshama,
similar to watching videos of giluy arayos. (Obviously in addition to the etzem issur there).

Death and murder are not the same.

(Also, using "giluy arayos" in this context bothers me, but whatever.)
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #47 on: May 04, 2021, 01:32:44 PM »
Why would these pictures have been shared? (Who took them?)
Must have been someone in the house.
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #48 on: May 04, 2021, 01:45:58 PM »
Think about what this 8-year-old boy must have seen

Why couldn't it be from what he saw at the levaya?
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #49 on: May 04, 2021, 02:04:27 PM »
Why couldn't it be from what he saw at the levaya?
Indeed. When I first saw the pictures, I thought it was wrapped in plastic. Now, upon looking closer, it appears that he is trying to mimic a tallis.

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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #50 on: May 04, 2021, 02:19:56 PM »
it appears that he is trying to mimic a tallis.
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #51 on: May 04, 2021, 03:52:03 PM »
Don’t forget in Israeli levaya/burial is done in a Tallis without a coffin
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #52 on: May 04, 2021, 06:58:34 PM »
Why would these pictures have been shared? (Who took them?)

probably whoever was assigned to keep him busy/ watch kids during shiva

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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #53 on: May 04, 2021, 06:59:22 PM »
Don’t forget in Israeli levaya/burial is done in a Tallis without a coffin

yes and the tallis is removed right before burial as well

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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2021, 07:21:11 PM »
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2021, 08:35:54 PM »
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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2021, 02:01:37 PM »
This isn't a new phenomenon. I discovered that a very close relative of mine had died during childbirth from pre-whatsapp text messaging groups.

The sharing of names, pictures, and videos is so beyond the pale it's crazy.

From today:

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/1976716/israelis-killed-in-italian-cable-car-disaster-identified-5-yr-old-is-sole-survivor.html
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"Aya Biran, Amit’s sister, who also lives in Italy and is sitting by Eitan’s bedside, told Italian media that she found out about the tragedy when she received Whatsapps from friends “sharing in her sorrow.”

...We only knew that Eitan was still alive when we saw that his name wasn’t on the list of fatalities."

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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2021, 02:44:28 PM »
Was thinking about this during laining this week.
Anyone that sees a Sotah is yazir atzmo min hayayin, because whatever you see has an effect on you....

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Re: Can we stop posting videos of our bretheren dying?
« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2021, 02:55:30 PM »
Was thinking about this during laining this week.
Anyone that sees a Sotah is yazir atzmo min hayayin, because whatever you see has an effect on you....
Is there any other time the Torah says this ?