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Minhagim On When To Start Putting On Tefillin
« on: May 03, 2021, 12:03:19 AM »
How long before Bar Mitzvah day do various communities start putting on Tefillin? Any ceremony/celebration/lechaim?

Response please indicate community along with answers (I.e. Lubavitch - 2 months prior to BM, first paragraph of Bar Mitzvah maamar recited followed by lechaim).
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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2021, 12:06:40 AM »
How long before Bar Mitzvah day do various communities start putting on Tefillin? Any ceremony/celebration/lechaim?

Response please indicate community along with answers (I.e. Lubavitch - 2 months prior to BM, first paragraph of Bar Mitzvah maamar recited followed by lechaim).
IINM in Skver they start a month before, elsewhere it's on the day turning 13, the morning after the BM. I've learned today another tidbid about Lubavitch.

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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2021, 12:09:26 AM »
How long before Bar Mitzvah day do various communities start putting on Tefillin? Any ceremony/celebration/lechaim?

Response please indicate community along with answers (I.e. Lubavitch - 2 months prior to BM, first paragraph of Bar Mitzvah maamar recited followed by lechaim).
In the yeshivish crowd, I think there are three prevalent minhagim. 3 months before, 1 month before, and day of, with 1 month before being the most prevalent by far.

No other ceremony, but some people do go to a rosh yeshiva or rebbe to put on tefillin by the first time.

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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2021, 12:22:44 AM »
IINM in Skver they start a month before, elsewhere it's on the day turning 13, the morning after the BM. I've learned today another tidbid about Lubavitch.

Evidently elsewhere doesn't include the yeshivish crowd.

Not going to ask about RT. I know that no-one does what Lubavitch has been doing since 5736.
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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2021, 12:39:09 AM »
Evidently elsewhere doesn't include the yeshivish crowd.

Correct. Talking of all the boys from the various chassidusin in my class which my vauge memory tells me it was on day turning 13.

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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2021, 12:48:04 AM »
"The Shapiro minhag is not to put on tefillin until you're actually bar mitzva." -Marvelous Midos Machine Episode 4

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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2021, 12:50:04 AM »
No other ceremony
Where I come from the class gets donuts and the Rebbe has to take a shot of Old Williamsburg (and love it).
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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2021, 12:59:45 AM »
Not going to ask about RT. I know that no-one does what Lubavitch has been doing since 5736.
Regarding RT; What I've seen is that most start putting them on after the Chassuna and some after the shuna rishona, with the exception of Nadvurna einiklech (Rosenbaums, Leifers etc.) who wear them even as bucherim. They have this awkward rectangular shaped Tefillin case since they don't need the larger ones for the Talis space.

How is it in Lubavitch?

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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2021, 01:32:38 AM »
"The Shapiro minhag is not to put on tefillin until you're actually bar mitzva." -Marvelous Midos Machine Episode 4

I wonder if I never heard episode 4 or my memory is failing me.
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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2021, 01:37:18 AM »
Regarding RT; What I've seen is that most start putting them on after the Chassuna and some after the shuna rishona, with the exception of Nadvurna einiklech (Rosenbaums, Leifers etc.) who wear them even as bucherim. They have this awkward rectangular shaped Tefillin case since they don't need the larger ones for the Talis space.

How is it in Lubavitch?

From the bar mitzvah. IIRC, it used to be from 18 (?), but the Rebbe encouraged moving it up to straight away after the bar mitzvah.
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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2021, 01:37:42 AM »
Regarding RT; What I've seen is that most start putting them on after the Chassuna and some after the shuna rishona, with the exception of Nadvurna einiklech (Rosenbaums, Leifers etc.) who wear them even as bucherim. They have this awkward rectangular shaped Tefillin case since they don't need the larger ones for the Talis space.

How is it in Lubavitch?

In Lubavitch Rashi and RT start 2 months prior to BM day. First day w/o brocho (though I have heard that some say a brocho from the first day).

Prior to 5736 (Purim IINM) I heard that older bochurim would write to the for permission to start RT (as they became more serious in learning).

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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2021, 08:30:14 AM »
I wonder if I never heard episode 4 or my memory is failing me.
It came out fairly recently
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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2021, 09:21:01 AM »
In Lubavitch Rashi and RT start 2 months prior to BM day. First day w/o brocho (though I have heard that some say a brocho from the first day).

Prior to 5736 (Purim IINM) I heard that older bochurim would write to the for permission to start RT (as they became more serious in learning).

http://chabadpedia.co.il/index.php/%D7%9E%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%AA%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9F#.D7.AA.D7.97.D7.99.D7.9C.D7.AA_.D7.94.D7.94.D7.A0.D7.97.D7.94

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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2021, 10:13:49 AM »
In my day, we started to make a bracha a month in. Still haven't started making a bracha on RT yet though. Maybe once I hit 70? Is that accurate, @ExGingi?

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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2021, 10:15:48 AM »
In my day, we started to make a bracha a month in. Still haven't started making a bracha on RT yet though. Maybe once I hit 70? Is that accurate, @ExGingi?

No intentional ברכה on RT, though it is said that at least once in one's lifetime one will make the mistake and make a ברכה and daven with RT.
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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2021, 10:23:03 AM »
No intentional ברכה on RT, though it is said that at least once in one's lifetime one will make the mistake and make a ברכה and daven with RT.

So, ummm, well, yeah. On second thought, I have made a bracha on R"T.

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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2021, 11:08:15 AM »
It came out fairly recently
Nine years ago.

The story line is that Shnookie lost his tefillin and President Reagan got kidnapped by crooks Charlie and Bruno. After Dr. Midos used the Marvelous Midos Machine to show the FBI where the president was being held, Reagan pulled strings and got Shnookie's tefillin back.

Does that jog your memory?

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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2021, 11:11:35 AM »
Nine years ago.
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Re: When To Start Putting On Tefilin
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2021, 12:04:51 PM »
So, ummm, well, yeah. On second thought, I have made a bracha on R"T.
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Re: Minhagim On When To Start Putting On Tefillin
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2021, 12:29:41 PM »
Nine years ago.

The story line is that Shnookie lost his tefillin and President Reagan got kidnapped by crooks Charlie and Bruno. After Dr. Midos used the Marvelous Midos Machine to show the FBI where the president was being held, Reagan pulled strings and got Shnookie's tefillin back.

Does that jog your memory?
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