War in Israel

[m65]

https://twitter.com/leahmadatta/status/1394777252622217222

reminds me of the story of the starving jewish child hugging his idol

[m65]

If a religion committed atrocities 100's of years ago that don't matter?

the jews as a people never committed atrocities.
and whatever they did do, was definitely compliable with the "holy holy" international law at the time that u so respect

[ExGingi]

If a religion committed atrocities 100's of years ago that don't matter?

the jews as a people never committed atrocities.
and whatever they did do, was definitely compliable with the "holy holy" international law at the time that u so respect

Let's just say that global morals and politics have evolved greatly over that last century or two. Take slavery for example. And there are many others.

And while we're not in the Geopolitics thread, you can ignore the huge transformation that occured over that last 100+ years, where the world moved from Empires to Nation States.

[CountValentine]

Feel free to continue in geopolitics thread to see which religions wanted to wipe out whole groups of people. Until then no need to clutter this thread.

[ExGingi]

Feel free to continue in geopolitics thread to see which religions wanted to wipe out whole groups of people. Until then no need to clutter this thread.

So we'll leave that historical discussion to the geopolitics thread, and stick to the last 50 years here. @PlatinumGuy made a statement about killing in the name of Judaism that many here are not willing to accept without any backing.

[PlatinumGuy]

Explain "Plenty" (especially in comparison to what the world has seen over the last 50 years by Islamic peace loving zealots).

Nations like Amalek were wiped out.

@PlatinumGuy - Please explain how your post addressed his. Does it disprove what he wrote or just point in another direction?

Also - please identify any killing in the name of Judaism which occurred in the last twenty-five years. His point is that every year there are hundreds of murders which occur with a person yelling Alahu Akbar. Please identify any person who killed in the name of Judaism.

Why draw an arbitrary line of 25 years? Specifically to exclude Baruch Goldstein that happened 27 years ago?

[CountValentine]

So we'll leave that historical discussion to the geopolitics thread, and stick to the last 50 years here. @PlatinumGuy made a statement about killing in the name of Judaism that many here are not willing to accept without any backing.

Did Yigal Amir kill in the name of Judaism?

[CountValentine]

Nations like Amalek were wiped out.

I wasn't going to go there.

[m65]

Nations like Amalek were wiped out.

amalek was a nation that generation after generation and time and time again tried wiping the jews out.

Why draw an arbitrary line of 25 years? Specifically to exclude Baruch Goldstein that happened 27 years ago?

boruch goldstein did not act upon the behest of his nation, but upon his own ideas. if timothy mcveigh would happened to have been jewish, would u also accuse the jews of commiting atrocities?

[CountValentine]

Specifically to exclude Baruch Goldstein that happened 27 years ago?

That would certainly be modern history.

[TimT]

I wasn't going to go there.

The ground troops finally moved in

[CountValentine]

boruch goldstein did not act upon the behest of his nation, but upon his own ideas.

Did he do it in the name of Judaism as that was the original statement by PG?

[CountValentine]

The ground troops finally moved in

Great, I am right behind.

[PlatinumGuy]

amalek was a nation that generation after generation and time and time again tried wiping the jews out.

They have reasons for their killings too. All I said was Judaism has its share of violence. In the end, one religion is true and its killings just, and the other is false and its killings atrocious. But I don’t know if one is more violent that the other.

 

boruch goldstein did not act upon the behest of his nation, but upon his own ideas.

https://he.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/תורת_המלך

[Kobe Bryant]

Nations like Amalek were wiped out.
Why draw an arbitrary line of 25 years? Specifically to exclude Baruch Goldstein that happened 27 years ago?

The fact that you can name one deranged individual person and we all know whom and what you are referring to should dispel the notion of “plenty Jews.” to equate Judaism to Muslim jihadist is nothing short of despicable.

I really have to stop clicking on “show me the post”

[m65]

The ground troops finally moved in

source?

[TimT]

source?

I was responding to going after amalek.

[ExGingi]

  https://he.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/תורת_המלך

I haven't read it, but based on the synopsis in the link you quoted I can't see how that justifies what Boruch Goldstein did.

From what I understand Goldstein used similar logic to Yigal Amir. I don't know what information they had, or if they consulted any Halachic authority prior to acting.

הצד השווה שבהן is that they both acted as individuals, based on their personal interpretation of the facts and the laws, as opposed to organized killings by states and organizations in the name of religion.

[NTorch]

Nations like Amalek were wiped out.
Why draw an arbitrary line of 25 years? Specifically to exclude Baruch Goldstein that happened 27 years ago?

There is a mitzva of mechiyas amalek, or does your version of the Torah not include that? And AFAIK no remnant of amalek has been the subject of any attempted mechiya in recent times.

25 is a round number, but even if you want to go back further to B Goldstein please explain how is the act of one person is the same as dozens of killings performed in the name of the "religion of peace" every year?

BTW - you continue to avoid addressing points directly.

He posted

Because (political) Islam is the religion of peace...

Just like all other religions in whose name killing is occurring all over the world.

Rather than address his point about Islam you posted:

Plenty of killing happened in the name of Judaism

And after I posted

@PlatinumGuy - Please explain how your post addressed his. Does it disprove what he wrote or just point in another direction?

Also - please identify any killing in the name of Judaism which occurred in the last twenty-five years. His point is that every year there are hundreds of murders which occur with a person yelling Alahu Akbar. Please identify any person who killed in the name of Judaism.

You continued to skip right over any fact that contradicts your narrative, as if it was not ever posted.

[Kobe Bryant]