War in Israel

[yesitsme]

Your post made think some are not seeing it. I thought I would try one more time to make it clear.

While we are at it, when I say they need to send in the troops I do not mean MORE ISRAELS NEED TO DIE!!!

but that's a fact regardless of your thoughts #benShapiro

[CountValentine]

Knowing Hamas' modus operandi, it is highly likely that deaths of civilians are highly overstated. I agree that I would not have written that line but rather that the number is highly overstated and the rest comprised mostly of terrorists and from rockets not make it over the border, but the rest of the article still stands.

I agree.
When you have facts on your side there is no need to slant or make them up.

[TimT]

Your post made think some are not seeing it. I thought I would try one more time to make it clear.

While we are at it, when I say they need to send in the troops I do not mean MORE ISRAELS NEED TO DIE!!!

Should they ignore Biden’s call for de-escalation ?

[CountValentine]

Should they ignore Biden’s call for de-escalation ?

I would try and get the most done in the shortest period of time.
You never know when and where you will need the US help.

[CountValentine]

but that's a fact regardless of your thoughts #benShapiro

What is a fact?

[zh cohen]

What is a fact?

That a ground invasion will lead to more Israelis dead and taken hostage

[yesitsme]

What is a fact?

that sending in troops will cost more civilians on booth sides

[TimT]

I would try and get the most done in the shortest period of time.

Not possible once the ground troops move in.

You never know when and where you will need the US help.

So, no more of this

You put on the big boy pants and get it done.

[CountValentine]

That a ground invasion will lead to more Israelis dead and taken hostage

that sending in troops will cost more civilians on booth sides

That is the nature of war. Hard choices need to be made.
To say anyone that believes troops should be sent in wants more people to die is nuts.

[CountValentine]

Not possible once the ground troops move in.So, no more of this

You are confusing two different situations.

If the choice is made to send in troops then no you will not be listening to Biden's call for de-escalation. You put on the big boy pants and accept the heat.

[Yellow]

i was walking near my house and a car pulled up asking for directions, which i gladly gave and then afterwards asked me will you say free palestine and which point i walked away not interested in further engaging as they continued to call after me with antisemitic slurs
this has been happening apparently all over Los Angeles

So is this the new reality for Jews in America?
I find it very telling (and scary) that no politicians/leaders are speaking out against this sharp increase in antisemitism everywhere.

[TimT]

then no you will not be listening to Biden's call for de-escalation. You put on the big boy pants and accept the heat.

A shame you weren’t on the ballot.

Why are you so convinced that they only wear the “big boy pants” through a ground invasion ? They’re all former military people running the show there, not freshman politicians who never got their shoes dirty.

[ExGingi]

You are confusing two different situations.

If the choice is made to send in troops then no you will not be listening to Biden's call for de-escalation. You put on the big boy pants and accept the heat.

Sending in the troops with what endgame or exit plan?

This isn't the US in Iraq, which is in a different continent thousands of miles away. This is Israel's back yard, with 2MM (mostly hostile) residents. As long as the Israelis were there send the population grew to what it was, it was one thing. But once a unilateral withdrawal occurred, what are you going to do with ground troops in such a place?

[Proisrael]

Had my first rocket yesterday living here in the Haifa area, watched the Iron Dome shoot over my head to take down the missile. The fear and terror I experienced was nothing I ever had in my life. My kids were alone in the park playing, absolute terror!!! I cannot begin to understand how the people in the south live day to day.

[Kobe Bryant]

A potential ceasefire between Israel and Hamas to start Friday afternoon, according to Israeli media (Channel 12).

[PlatinumGuy]

If true, this is a huge change in Israeli strategy - allowing an international force to control Gaza and demilitarize Hamas. Excellent move in my opinion. Hamas can’t be allowed to continue getting stronger, and this is the least costly policing method.

https://www.globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=1001371577

[NTorch]

Miracle at the border: 30 soldiers leave bus right before Hamas blows it up

Meir Vaknin, the driver of the bus which was struck by a Hamas anti-tank missile Thursday morning, spoke to Liat Regev of Reshet Bet about the attack, which could have ended with dozens of casualties instead of zero.

"I let the soldiers off, turned around and then there was an explosion. The whole vehicle shook, it was a miracle. About 30 soldiers got off a few seconds before and dispersed. I will continue to drive soldiers. Thank G-d no one was hurt - the cabin is not protected, everything is plastic," he said.

A preliminary investigation of the incident reveals that the bus was on its way to bring back the soldiers from a mission, traveled on non-exposed routes and dropped off the soldiers in the permitted area. After the soldiers got off, the bus advanced a few more meters outside the base, to an exposed area, and was struck by an anti-tank missile while the driver was inside.

One soldier was wounded by shrapnel in the attack and taken to Barzilai Medical Center in Ashkelon.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/306528

[aygart]

Your post made think some are not seeing it. I thought I would try one more time to make it clear.

While we are at it, when I say they need to send in the troops I do not mean MORE ISRAELS NEED TO DIE!!!

Think they will finally see it now?

[Kobe Bryant]

[Kobe Bryant]

Your post made think some are not seeing it. I thought I would try one more time to make it clear.

While we are at it, when I say they need to send in the troops I do not mean MORE ISRAELS NEED TO DIE!!!

I don’t think that thought ever crossed anyone’s mind. That’s asinine and outrageous. I think the argument being made is that a ground invasion will inevitably lead to more deaths. Full disclosure: This thread is too fast paced and I haven’t FTT.