War in Israel

[CountValentine]

Only 30% have been against Israel. Which makes sense as Israel must be responsible for a third of the world’s human rights abuses.

If you measure by intelligence it makes sense

30% seems way to low since the claim is the world hates Israel. 

[TimT]

Is it a double standard when DDF is silent on non-Jewish tragedies but vocal on Jewish tragedies?

This is a completely false narrative you’ve peddled here numerous times. I can easily post dozens of threads discussing non-jewish tragedies. It’ll take you quite some time to brush them all off.

[CountValentine]

This is a completely false narrative you’ve peddled here numerous times. I can easily post dozens of threads discussing non-jewish tragedies. It’ll take you quite some time to brush them all off.

I did not say DDF is silent on "all" non-Jewish tragedies. You never miss a Jewish tragedy but the same is not true for non-Jewish tragedies. Funny other members explained why that is but you are the only one that claims it is false.

For the record the only things I have peddled is drugs and a bicycle! 

[TimT]

I did not say DDF is silent on "all" non-Jewish tragedies. You never miss a Jewish tragedy but the same is not true for non-Jewish tragedies. Funny other members explained why that is but you are the only one that claims it is false.

And you didn’t say vocal on all jewish tragedies either. You said silent on non-jewish & vocal on jewish.
Is this what you meant to say ?

Is it a double standard when DDF is silent on some non-Jewish tragedies but vocal on every Jewish tragedy ?

[CountValentine]

And you didn’t say vocal on all jewish tragedies either. You said silent on non-jewish & vocal on jewish.
Is this what you meant to say ?

Take it any way you want.
The point is how can you claim a double standard against Israel when you have a double standard against "ALL" non-Jews?

[TimT]

Take it any way you want.
The point is how can you claim a double standard against Israel when you have a double standard against "ALL" non-Jews?

First of all we don’t cover every jewish tragedy here. Not even close.
Second, even if we did discuss every jewish tragedy, it has nothing to do with double standard. Everyone is free to start any topic they choose. Mods aren’t forbidding discussion of certain tragedies. And as I’ve stated we discuss plenty of non-jewish tragedies as well as not discussing many jewish tragedies.
Third, what does discussion of tragedies on DDF have anything to do with a double standard against Israel ?

[CountValentine]

Third, what does discussion of tragedies on DDF have anything to do with a double standard against Israel ?

We were talking about double standards. I was pointing out when someone does talk about something there can be many reasons besides a double standard.

I used tragedies covered here as an example. Just because a non-Jewish tragedy isn't covered does not mean it is automatically a double standard.

[Yehuda57]

We were talking about double standards. I was pointing out when someone does talk about something there can be many reasons besides a double standard.

I used tragedies covered here as an example. Just because a non-Jewish tragedy isn't covered does not mean it is automatically a double standard.

I addressed the fallacy of that comparison.

[CountValentine]

I addressed the fallacy of that comparison.

I guess that is the end to that. 

[Yehuda57]

I guess that is the end to that. 

You didn't respond...

[yelped]

You didn't respond...

As usual for CV. Deflect with random unrelated tangents.

[NTorch]

FWIW this thread has gotten significantly off topic.

@ Mods - Since the missiles/airstrikes have ended maybe close the thread?

[CountValentine]

As usual for CV. Deflect with random unrelated tangents.

Yup, I am the that doesn't respond to questions. 

[yelped]

Yup, I am the that doesn't respond to questions. 

You don't respond to the relevant ones, only the type of questions that you pose.

[CountValentine]

You didn't respond...

I didn't respond to everyone of your posts? That is correct.
I think I made it clear my position on "double standard".

[CountValentine]

You don't respond to the relevant ones, only the type of questions that you pose.

Would you like to put a little wager on questions? The number I answer against those that I ask that never get answered?

[Yehuda57]

I didn't respond to everyone of your posts? That is correct.
I think I made it clear my position on "double standard".

 I don't think you are required to respond to and answer everything. However, if you do make a claim or ask a question which is answered, it's rude to continue making the claim without answering or responding to the answer.

[CountValentine]

I don't think you are required to respond to and answer everything. However, if you do make a claim or ask a question which is answered, it's rude to continue making the claim without answering or responding to the answer.

I hate to be rude. 
Where is your response that you want me to respond to?

[Yehuda57]

I hate to be rude. 
Where is your response that you want me to respond to?

Again, I don't need it want you to respond, but to keep arguing that how DDFers react to tragedies has any implication on political double standards without addressing the responses to it makes for a pointless discussion

Firstly, tragedies /= injustice. There's definitely no double standard there - it's about how personally something affects you.

But assuming you meant to compare injustices:

An individual need not speak out against every single injustice. It's not necessarily a double standard if you choose to focus on certain issues. However, if you only care about that issue when it's done in a certain way, that reveals the double standard. For instance, if a forum member gets mad about a Palestinian attacking a Jew in Times Square, but excuses a White Supremacist beating up a Jew in Virginia, that would reveal a double standard. 

For politicians who enact policy, it is trickier. You can't expect them to speak up on EVERY issue, but they need to be far more vocal and clear about their policies. When hundreds of thousands of civilians are killed within driving distance to Gaza with chemical weapons are used to wipe out thousands, and not a single word is said by a politician who criticizes Israel and calls them out for crimes against humanity for defensive strikes - you bet that's a double standard. Or if someone is fighting for Palestinian rights only when they are trampled on by Israel, but ignores when Egypt, Jordan, or Palestinian leadership does the same.

[CountValentine]

No I did not mean to compare only injustices. I meant to compare all types of double standards.
Now I addressed why calling out Israel for something and not calling out country xyz for doing the same thing is not always automatically a double standard. You want to hear them again? 
Lets be clear here, when we say double standard aren't we really saying anti-Israel or anti-Semitic?