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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #520 on: May 12, 2021, 11:20:00 AM »
There are literally hundreds of hours of video showing every faction of Palestinian leadership saying similar things. This channel is a start:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC59Cpk70K2TwdmApJOTuW9g
Ok but how about answering my questions.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #521 on: May 12, 2021, 11:20:19 AM »
Of course it would end. Jews and Arabs coexisted peacefully in Israel and many other countries up until mass Jewish immigration to Israel. Something that cannot be said about the Christians.

My great-grandmother was born in Chevron in the early 1900s. Care to elaborate on the peaceful coexistence her family experienced with their Arab neighbors?

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #522 on: May 12, 2021, 11:21:46 AM »
My great-grandmother was born in Chevron in the early 1900s. Care to elaborate on the peaceful coexistence her family experienced with their Arab neighbors?

He's going to claim that early 1900s was already after "mass immigration" started, or before things pass his imaginary threshold for what's considered no longer peaceful.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #523 on: May 12, 2021, 11:21:58 AM »
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #524 on: May 12, 2021, 11:22:13 AM »


That's the problem with alot of frum anti Zionists, they let the anti Zionist in them cloud there judgement and perspectives

Theoretically they could be correct, but we have to be practical


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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #525 on: May 12, 2021, 11:23:32 AM »
He's going to claim that early 1900s was already after "mass immigration" started, or before things pass his imaginary threshold for what's considered no longer peaceful.

So should we go back to the original Jihad a few centuries ago?

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #526 on: May 12, 2021, 11:23:40 AM »
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A population is able to be riled up into violence by the leadership. This has been seen countless times throughout history.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #527 on: May 12, 2021, 11:23:56 AM »
My great-grandmother was born in Chevron in the early 1900s. Care to elaborate on the peaceful coexistence her family experienced with their Arab neighbors?
Should we talk about all the Arabs towns Jews massacred?

Of course it would end. Jews and Arabs coexisted peacefully in Israel and many other countries up until mass Jewish immigration to Israel. Something that cannot be said about the Christians.

That started somewhere around 1890 when the Zionist movement was formed and prompted the Ottoman Empire to prohibit Jewish immigration.

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #528 on: May 12, 2021, 11:24:27 AM »
You think if every single Jew picked themselves up and moved to Uganda Hamas wouldn't continue???

Let's not be selective about our history... There have been good times and bad times with both religions. To say it centers around Jews living in Israel just isn't true.
You're conflating Hamas with Al-Qaeda. They want us out of Israel, that's it. Of course they are terrorists for targeting civilians in Israel and around the globe in their efforts to retaliate against Israel. They are the epitome of rotzchim and live up to that name every day. But don't pretend like their fight is against Jews regardless of whether the Jews are occupying  Israel or Uganda. The 25k Jews in Iran for example are not on their radar, to give you some context.

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #529 on: May 12, 2021, 11:24:45 AM »
Please show me where their charter describes an 'express to intent to kill all Jews' that you claimed.
Dude this thread is about the current situation in israel.

Take your Hamas sympathising, crazed left wing neturei karta ramblings to JS. Open a thread there & knock yourself out. POS.

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #530 on: May 12, 2021, 11:25:06 AM »
Let's not be selective about our history... There have been good times and bad times with both religions. To say it centers around Jews living in Israel just isn't true.
The conflict with Hamas is 100% about control of Israel and has absolutely nothing to do with classic antisemitism.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #531 on: May 12, 2021, 11:25:40 AM »
Yes 100%. You think if every single Jew picked themselves up and moved to Uganda Hamas wouldn't continue??? They store their rockets in homes, schools, and hospitals. Do you really think they give a damn about human life?
I am just trying to understand the thought process. I don't see Hamas caring about human life.
Regarding what percentage, I am not going to pretend I know the answer to that.
Just asking what you feel the % is?
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #532 on: May 12, 2021, 11:26:01 AM »
Please show me where their charter describes an 'express to intent to kill all Jews' that you claimed.

I doubt its in their charter, too many PR specialists working on their case for that. But all you have to do is get into a conversation with any hamas supporter and you'll very quickly be told of that intent.

Can you please go spend some time on reddit amd then come back here

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #533 on: May 12, 2021, 11:26:53 AM »
Dude this thread is about the current situation in israel.

Take your Hamas sympathising, crazed left wing neturei karta ramblings to JS. Open a thread there & knock yourself out. POS.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #534 on: May 12, 2021, 11:27:58 AM »
A population is able to be riled up into violence by the leadership. This has been seen countless times throughout history.
The violence predates the current leadership.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #535 on: May 12, 2021, 11:28:55 AM »
That's the problem with alot of frum anti Zionists, they let the anti Zionist in them cloud there judgement and perspectives
Both of your claims would carry a lot more weight if they were supported by a shred of evidence.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #536 on: May 12, 2021, 11:29:32 AM »
My great-grandmother was born in Chevron in the early 1900s. Care to elaborate on the peaceful coexistence her family experienced with their Arab neighbors?
chevron was so peaceful from 1948-1967, not even 1 rock thrown!

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #537 on: May 12, 2021, 11:29:54 AM »
The conflict with Hamas is 100% about control of Israel and has absolutely nothing to do with classic antisemitism.

I don't disagree that it's about control of Israel, but to deny that anti-Semitism plays a part here is taking things a step too far. Both can be true. Regardless, that doesn't change my response to your very generalized comment.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #538 on: May 12, 2021, 11:30:11 AM »
So should we go back to the original Jihad a few centuries ago?
Anything close to Christians jihads/fanatics in that era?

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #539 on: May 12, 2021, 11:32:32 AM »