War in Israel

[Yehuda57]

Should we talk about all the Arabs towns Jews massacred?

Sure. No matter where you want to stop or start through history, you ain't going to get anything even in the same stratosphere as the persecution Jews suffered from Arabs. There is a massive fundamental difference between an individual or group going on a rampage, or a group acting on an ideology that has been repeated for hundreds of years. You want to discuss Christians and if they were worse? Sure, I don't think anyone is denying that.

That started somewhere around 1890 when the Zionist movement was formed and prompted the Ottoman Empire to prohibit Jewish immigration.

She was 3rd generation Chevronite. The Chevron community was formed long before 1890. They were murdered because Arab leaders sold their population a BS story about Jews taking over Al Aqsa. This happened in other cities as well before 1948, and it happened in the second intifada, and it happened this week.

[m65]

You really believe that want to physically kill every man, women and child?
What % of the Palestinian population do believe would do this?

enough to keep us busy

[Lurker]

Dude this thread is about the current situation in israel.

Take your Hamas sympathising, crazed left wing neturei karta ramblings to JS. Open a thread there & knock yourself out. POS.

It should only be about the current situation, but it's been dominated by ideological arguments (as usual). If others can post their opinions, he can, too, even if they're unpopular. It definitely doesn't warrant some of the name calling. You don't want to hear it, hit ignore.

[aygart]

The violence predates the current leadership.

And therefore? Tyranny in NK predates Kim Jong Un too.

[neveryou]

Both of your claims would carry a lot more weight if they were supported by a shred of evidence.

Do you agree with NK ideology?

[PlatinumGuy]

She was 3rd generation Chevronite. The Chevron community was formed long before 1890.

You're proving my point. They coexisted peacefully in Chevron until the equilibrium broke by mass Jewish immigration at the turn of the century and the massacre happened in 1929 which was triggered by the British rulers shifting the Western Wall status quo in the Jews favor.

All of these are universally agreed facts that nobody disputes.

You don't want to hear it, hit ignore.

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[neveryou]

Both of your claims would carry a lot more weight if they were supported by a shred of evidence.

Whats more important to you right now,
Jewish lives or anti Zionism?

[Yehuda57]

Ok but how about answering my questions.

Your question isn't answerable.

The flow of conversation was "Hamas wants to kill Jews". PG said, "prove it." Then you switched the conversation.

Palestinian leadership has been speaking about killing Jews since the beginning of Palestinian leadership, and Arab leaders were doing so before then. That's what incites the population to kill Jews, and it is what incited them to kill Jews before Israel was formed.

This is born of consistent hate messaging by leaders. Who is to say what percentage of the population would do that? There is no way to know that that very individual would have predicted himself lynching a Jew the day before he joined a mob and did it.

[PlatinumGuy]

Whats more important to you right now,
Jewish lives or anti Zionism?

As I said multiple times in this thread, Jewish lives is my prime concern, and if the only way to protect them is to act unjustly, so be it. But don't fool yourself that those who call it out are prejudiced.

[EliJelly]

She was 3rd generation Chevronite. The Chevron community was formed long before 1890. They were murdered because Arab leaders sold their population a BS story about Jews taking over Al Aqsa. This happened in other cities as well before 1948, and it happened in the second intifada, and it happened this week.

Tensions started way before 1948. Israel wasn't founded in 1948 suddenly out of nowhere. Such BS stories about Al Aqsa take overs incited in their masques wasn't told - and couldn't be told- by their Imams a century earlier.

[PlatinumGuy]

Tensions started way before 1948. Israel wasn't founded in 1948 suddenly out of nowhere. Such BS stories about Al Aqsa take overs incited in their masques wasn't told by their Imams a century earlier.

The key to the conflict is the number of Jews in Israel vs Arabs. In the late 1800s there were under 100k Jews and 700k++ Arabs. In the 1920s and 30s the Jewish population doubled by immigration as a result of Theodor Herzl and the Zionist movement.

The Arabs feared being overrun, which ended up happening more than anybody could've possibly imagined. Of course, that doesn't justify their behavior about it.

[Yehuda57]

You're proving my point. They coexisted peacefully in Chevron until the equilibrium broke by mass Jewish immigration at the turn of the century and the massacre happened in 1929 which was triggered by the British rulers shifting the Western Wall status quo in the Jews favor.

All of these are universally agreed facts that nobody disputes.
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So you're saying Arabs don't really want to kill Jews, unless there is a political shift in Jerusalem, in which case Jews anywhere else are fair game?

[avromie7]

As I said multiple times in this thread, Jewish lives is my prime concern, and if the only way to protect them is to act unjustly, so be it. But don't fool yourself that those who call it out are prejudiced.

If it's the proper thing for Israel to do, anyone calling them out is prejudiced. If you're calling out something that the only alternative is to allow your people to be murdered, you are prejudiced.

The only ones any objective observer would call out are the ones leaving Israel with no choice other than to act in a manner that will result in civilian deaths, especially the use of human shields.

[efflpetzel]

It should only be about the current situation, but it's been dominated by ideological arguments (as usual). If others can post their opinions, he can, too, even if they're unpopular. It definitely doesn't warrant some of the name calling. You don't want to hear it, hit ignore.

Are you kidding me, read this thread from the beginning, his woke & warped postings is the only reason this thread went off topic.

People open this thread to hear the latest about the situation in Israel.

JS was created for this reason, he can spew his vomit over there.

[PlatinumGuy]

woke

Out of curiosity, can you define that word?

[EliJelly]

The key to the conflict is the number of Jews in Israel vs Arabs. In the late 1800s there were under 100k Jews and 700k++ Arabs. In the 1920s and 30s the Jewish population doubled by immigration as a result of Theodor Herzl and the Zionist movement.

The Arabs feared being overrun, which ended up happening more than anybody could've possibly imagined. Of course, that doesn't justify their behavior about it.

Basic and well known historic facts.

[Lurker]

Are you kidding me, read this thread from the beginning, his woke & warped postings is the only reason this thread went off topic.

People open this thread to hear the latest about the situation in Israel.

JS was created for this reason, he can spew his vomit over there.

I've read this thread, and I've asked (along with others) to keep it on news. Welcome to DDF.

[Abebee]

People open this thread to hear the latest about the situation in Israel.

So true, now I just come back every few minutes and skip pages and pages that have nothing to do with the current situation!

[TimT]

#CancelCulture

Out of curiosity, can you define that word?

[yelped]

Ok. Let's do it. Updates only, please.