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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1180 on: May 19, 2021, 03:26:40 PM »
Can you please stop this? It's enough that Palestinian
propaganda is all over social media, we don't need a representative posting it here. Respect the oilam.
If I didn’t know my better, I would say the point of these posts is to criticize the gazan terror state and to highlight what they are doing to their civilians and innocent children.

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1181 on: May 19, 2021, 03:27:09 PM »
For the 100th time. Send in troops.
Public opinion is on Israel's side. That will change quickly as the casualties and destruction keeps mounting up.
so in other words we need more Israelis to die for this to look more ethical to the world? It's not going to lower the casualty rate of children in Gaza if anything will only make it worse

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1182 on: May 19, 2021, 03:30:11 PM »
Under international law, the responsibility for the deaths of civilians used as human shields or killed in attacks on military targets placed in residential areas are the responsibility of the one who caused them to be in harm's way and not the attacker.
The principle of proportionality requires parties to balance military advantage against the risk of harm to civilians and civilian objects. The application of this principle determines when the death of civilians in an attack constitutes a war crime in contradistinction to unfortunate, but not criminally actionable, collateral damage.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1183 on: May 19, 2021, 03:31:04 PM »
For the 100th time. Send in troops.


Ground war = more death and destruction to civilians. There have been ground wars before, and they purposefully keep women and children in harm's way. Plus Hamas terrorists are not wearing camouflage and markings, and a 16-20 year old terrorist is indistinguishable from a 14-25 year old civilian. Plus terrorists are disguised as women (and youngsters).

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1184 on: May 19, 2021, 03:31:08 PM »
For the 100th time. Send in troops.
Public opinion is on Israel's side.

Really? That's not the vibe I've been getting. Seems like everyone has been demonizing israel and branding Zionists as "terrorists"

The sharp rise in antisemitic events (all over the world, towards people not involved at all in the conflict) without a peep from anyone condemning it speaks louder than words
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1185 on: May 19, 2021, 03:34:20 PM »
so in other words we need more Israelis to die for this to look more ethical to the world? It's not going to lower the casualty rate of children in Gaza if anything will only make it worse
No but Israel needs to do a much better job with their PR and explaining to the world everything that they already know ( like how Palestinians use their women and children as human Shields, how they purposefully fire rockets from schools and hospitals etc.)

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1186 on: May 19, 2021, 03:35:06 PM »
No but Israel needs to do a much better job with their PR and explaining to the world everything that they already know ( like how Palestinians use their women and children as human Shields, how they purposefully fire rockets from schools and hospitals etc.)
Everyone knows & no one cares.

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1187 on: May 19, 2021, 03:36:42 PM »

Really? That's not the vibe I've been getting. Seems like everyone has been demonizing israel and branding Zionists as "terrorists"
I can only speak for myself. Bombing in the short term looks like it works but in the long run it is failure. There will be a cease-fire and Hamas will rebuild with more weapons for the next cycle.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1188 on: May 19, 2021, 03:40:27 PM »
I can only speak for myself. Bombing in the short term looks like it works but in the long run it is failure. There will be a cease-fire and Hamas will rebuild with more weapons for the next cycle.
Same for ground trips (this isn't the first rodeo).
There is no endgame
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1189 on: May 19, 2021, 03:41:58 PM »
Same for ground trips (this isn't the first rodeo).
There is no endgame
You don't leave until you get everyone of them.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1190 on: May 19, 2021, 03:42:04 PM »
Yasser al-Halabi, a Hamas commander was just killed in an attack in the al-Shati camp.

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1191 on: May 19, 2021, 03:43:50 PM »
You don't leave until you get everyone of them.
Talk about public opinion quickly changing.

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1192 on: May 19, 2021, 03:45:27 PM »
Every women and child that is killed is not a terrorist or part of Hamas.

False. First of all, any civilian death is bad- man, woman, adult, child. Second, your assumption that women cannot be terrorists isn't very progressive. Just today a woman opened fire of Israeli troops and was killed. She gets classified under "women and children." Third, "children" counts every person under the age of 18. That's great, but Hamas and other terror groups don't have an age limit to join. There are many teenagers amongst their ranks, and those deaths are still classified as "children." Fourth, the numbers don't tell who who killed them. Israel has made around 1500 airstrikes in Gaza since this started. Hamas has had 500 missiles misfired and land within Gaza. Who do you think has hit more civilians?

In short, we don't like civilians dying. Full stop. But the other things need to be accounted for before making ridiculous statements.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1193 on: May 19, 2021, 03:49:53 PM »
The principle of proportionality requires parties to balance military advantage against the risk of harm to civilians and civilian objects. The application of this principle determines when the death of civilians in an attack constitutes a war crime in contradistinction to unfortunate, but not criminally actionable, collateral damage.
Military advantage of taking out rocket launchers shooting at civilian cities makes that an open shut legal arguemnet.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1194 on: May 19, 2021, 03:51:18 PM »
, "children" counts every person under the age of 18.
In Gaza the general standard is 16
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1195 on: May 19, 2021, 03:52:02 PM »
Military advantage of taking out rocket launchers shooting at civilian cities makes that an open shut legal arguemnet.
Israel struck more than 2000 targets. Very few of them were ‘rocket launchers’.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1196 on: May 19, 2021, 03:52:17 PM »
Talk about public opinion quickly changing.
Yes it will be against Israel. You put on the big boy pants and get it done.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1197 on: May 19, 2021, 03:55:19 PM »
Yes it will be against Israel. You put on the big boy pants and get it done.
So should they be concerned about public opinion or not ?

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1198 on: May 19, 2021, 03:56:44 PM »
False. First of all, any civilian death is bad- man, woman, adult, child. Second, your assumption that women cannot be terrorists isn't very progressive. Just today a woman opened fire of Israeli troops and was killed. She gets classified under "women and children." Third, "children" counts every person under the age of 18. That's great, but Hamas and other terror groups don't have an age limit to join. There are many teenagers amongst their ranks, and those deaths are still classified as "children." Fourth, the numbers don't tell who who killed them. Israel has made around 1500 airstrikes in Gaza since this started. Hamas has had 500 missiles misfired and land within Gaza. Who do you think has hit more civilians?

In short, we don't like civilians dying. Full stop. But the other things need to be accounted for before making ridiculous statements.
You saying my statement is false is ludicrous. You need reading comprehension 101.
You can argue most are terrorist or belong to Hamas but every one of them.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1199 on: May 19, 2021, 03:58:31 PM »
So should they be concerned about public opinion or not ?
Have you read any of my past post? If not their is a talented member here that can search for you.  ;)
They need to do what is best for their people and take the heat for it.
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