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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1200 on: May 19, 2021, 03:59:55 PM »
You don't leave until you get everyone of them.

You're talking about a price of hundreds or thousands of Israeli soldiers (not to mentions thousands of civilians). That's not a price a nation that already barely has a single family unaffected by terrorism wants to pay.

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1201 on: May 19, 2021, 04:00:29 PM »
They need to do what is best for their people
Perhaps they feel this is the best way. Even if you’re convinced it’s not.

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1202 on: May 19, 2021, 04:03:52 PM »
Perhaps they feel this is the best way. Even if you’re convinced it’s not.
That's fair.
I am convinced Hamas will just rebuild with more powerful and sophisticated weapons.
US will give aid to Palestine to rebuild and be accused of supporting Hamas.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1203 on: May 19, 2021, 04:11:51 PM »
I am convinced Hamas will just rebuild with more powerful and sophisticated weapons.
Of course. Same thing every several years.
US will give aid to Palestinians to rebuild and be accused of supporting Hamas.
FTFY We have no idea where the money goes. Or perhaps we do. One thing for sure is that the average Palestinian’s life hasn’t improved with all the billions & billions that have poured in from the international community. The weapons, rockets & tunnels have, though.

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1204 on: May 19, 2021, 04:13:24 PM »
You saying my statement is false is ludicrous. You need reading comprehension 101.
You can argue most are terrorist or belong to Hamas but every one of them.

LOL! You may have meant to write, "Not every woman or child that is killed is a terrorist or part of Hamas." You wrote, "Every women [sic] and child that is killed is not a terrorist or part of Hamas." One sentence says not everyone is a terrorist, while the other says none of them are terrorists.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1205 on: May 19, 2021, 04:14:35 PM »
LOL! You may have meant to write, "Not every woman or child that is killed is a terrorist or part of Hamas." You wrote, "Every women [sic] and child that is killed is not a terrorist or part of Hamas." One sentence says not everyone is a terrorist, while the other says none of them are terrorists.
That's how you read it because you only think one way of my posts.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1206 on: May 19, 2021, 04:16:24 PM »
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1207 on: May 19, 2021, 04:18:39 PM »
That's how you read it because you only think one way of my posts.

You must have me confused with someone else. I haven't had too many issues with your posts on the subject. I read it that way because that's how the English language works.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1208 on: May 19, 2021, 04:18:52 PM »
That’s the risk Israel takes when warning prior to bombing.

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1209 on: May 19, 2021, 04:23:45 PM »
You must have me confused with someone else. I haven't had too many issues with your posts on the subject. I read it that way because that's how the English language works.
Glad you put your own context on the statement.
If someone is saying this women or that child is a terrorist or part of Hamas and I make that statement it does not mean every one of them are.

You really think I believe there is not a single women or child that is a terrorist or part of Hamas? 
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1210 on: May 19, 2021, 04:51:07 PM »
Glad you put your own context on the statement.
If someone is saying this women or that child is a terrorist or part of Hamas and I make that statement it does not mean every one of them are.

You really think I believe there is not a single women or child that is a terrorist or part of Hamas?

i took issue with the statement the way it was written. You clarified it, moving on.

As an aside, the categorization of victims as "women and children" plays into the terrorists PR agenda. It's meant to evoke pity for the weak and defenseless, and portray the Israelis as heartless animals. Ultimately, the age and gender of a civilian casualty shouldn't matter. Either they were a civilian, or they weren't.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1211 on: May 19, 2021, 04:54:10 PM »
Ultimately, the age and gender of a civilian casualty shouldn't matter. Either they were a civilian, or they weren't.
Of course age and gender matter. It is the world we live in.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1212 on: May 19, 2021, 05:02:27 PM »
i took issue with the statement the way it was written. You clarified it, moving on.

As an aside, the categorization of victims as "women and children" plays into the terrorists PR agenda. It's meant to evoke pity for the weak and defenseless, and portray the Israelis as heartless animals. Ultimately, the age and gender of a civilian casualty shouldn't matter. Either they were a civilian, or they weren't.
The age means they can’t be held liable for voting Hamas in or choosing to be a human shield. It’s also widely accepted that protection of women and children is a greater priority, and it is anchored in international law, e.g. the Geneva convention says ‘ Children must be the object of special respect’
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1213 on: May 19, 2021, 05:04:59 PM »
the Geneva convention says ‘ Children must be the object of special respect’
Why are the Palestinians never dragged before the ICC ?

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1214 on: May 19, 2021, 05:07:46 PM »
Why are the Palestinians never dragged before the ICC ?
Every news channel I have seen has condemned Hamas for war crimes!!!
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1215 on: May 19, 2021, 05:11:53 PM »
Every news channel I have seen has condemned Hamas for war crimes!!!
If you’re responding to me it doesn’t answer the question.

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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1216 on: May 19, 2021, 05:14:16 PM »
“The Trump-Pence Administration set the table for lasting peace and an end to the decades-long conflict in the region. President Biden has replaced strength with weakness, moral clarity with confusion, and loyalty with betrayal.

If the wold knows nothing else, let the world know this: America Stands with Israel”.  Mike Pence


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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1217 on: May 19, 2021, 05:19:03 PM »
Why are the Palestinians never dragged before the ICC ?
The procedure requires the victim (Israel) to refer them to the ICC.
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1218 on: May 19, 2021, 05:20:35 PM »
“The Trump-Pence Administration set the table for lasting peace and an end to the decades-long conflict in the region. President Biden has replaced strength with weakness, moral clarity with confusion, and loyalty with betrayal.

If the wold knows nothing else, let the world know this: America Stands with Israel”.  Mike Pence
The spineless Pence speaks, ROFLMAO!!!
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Re: War in Israel
« Reply #1219 on: May 19, 2021, 05:22:41 PM »
“The Trump-Pence Administration set the table for lasting peace and an end to the decades-long conflict in the region. President Biden has replaced strength with weakness, moral clarity with confusion, and loyalty with betrayal.

If the wold knows nothing else, let the world know this: America Stands with Israel”.  Mike Pence
This is a heartwarming statement. But it's just words, nothing more. And a minority opinion, it seems.

It doesn't feel like this is the general public sentiment towards israel.