Author Topic: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel (Read 64125 times)

Yo ssi · « **Reply #400 on:** May 16, 2021, 05:02:56 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on May 16, 2021, 02:37:06 PM

You only had to change one or two things for it to be bias free IMHBO.

FTFY

CountValentine · « **Reply #401 on:** May 16, 2021, 05:23:18 PM »

Quote from: YitzyS on May 16, 2021, 05:14:11 PM

I did not watch this, but I thought Dr. Roberts' perspective may interest people here, so I posted.

Good thing you didn't watch it. I watch the first couple of minutes and this guy is a nut case.

aygart · « **Reply #402 on:** May 16, 2021, 05:24:22 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on May 16, 2021, 04:54:16 PM

They are duly elected officials.

So is hamas

CountValentine · « **Reply #403 on:** May 16, 2021, 05:24:57 PM »

Quote from: aygart on May 16, 2021, 05:24:22 PM

So is hamas

Not in my country.

aygart · « **Reply #404 on:** May 16, 2021, 05:28:35 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on May 16, 2021, 05:24:57 PM

Not in my district

FTFY

yelped · « **Reply #405 on:** May 16, 2021, 05:47:24 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on May 16, 2021, 04:54:16 PM

They are duly elected officials.

Ok?

yos9694 · « **Reply #406 on:** May 16, 2021, 06:15:35 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on May 16, 2021, 04:13:34 PM

50% of what is reported?

I truly don't know and could imagine the real number is much less than 50%. The inflation includes made up deaths (how is the number substantiated?) as well as misclassified ones (terrorists/fighters who go uncredited).

Once those numbers are removed the civilian casualty count has to be attributed correctly - faulting Hamas for casualties caused by their own rockets and for casualties that were their human shields, and then we can hold Israel at fault for the rest.

If I had to guess, less than 25% of reported civilian casualties are "real" and less than 1% on a "fault" basis

Mordyk · « **Reply #407 on:** May 16, 2021, 06:35:56 PM »

I finally realized something. People that are on social media think the world hates Israel because of the good for nothing celebrities.
Anyone that follows world news sees how many heads of states are coming out pro israel

CountValentine · « **Reply #408 on:** May 16, 2021, 07:25:11 PM »

Quote from: Mordyk on May 16, 2021, 06:35:56 PM

I finally realized something. People that are on social media think the world hates Israel because of the good for nothing celebrities.

Say what?

CountValentine · « **Reply #409 on:** May 16, 2021, 08:04:21 PM »

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/u-s-ambassador-to-u-n-calls-for-de-escalation-in-middle-east/ar-BB1gNue1?ocid=msedgntp

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #410 on:** May 17, 2021, 05:09:53 PM »

Quote from: m65 on May 12, 2021, 05:51:13 PM

what about someone who cuts a red light in order to save a life, should he also be investigated for a criminal offense, but not for a moral transgression?

That's a perfect example. He should be investigated to check if the claim of saving a life is true or false. The person who killed the Arab should be investigated to determine if it was self-defense or not.

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #411 on:** May 17, 2021, 05:12:56 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on May 12, 2021, 04:21:21 PM

Why is saying Israel should show restraint considered a wacko left point of view?

Because they convinced themselves Biden is anti-Israel and have to reconcile that with the reality that the US is supporting Israel 100%, postponed the UNSC meeting, and then vetoed its statement. In Israel, the general sentiment is that international support is higher than it's ever been.

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #412 on:** May 17, 2021, 05:16:03 PM »

Quote from: zh cohen on May 12, 2021, 04:29:22 PM

Israel would act in an unrestrained way beyond that which is necessary to protect itself and therefore needs to be told not to.

This is an undisputed fact...

See for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafr_Qasim_massacre

CountValentine · « **Reply #413 on:** May 17, 2021, 08:19:00 PM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on May 17, 2021, 05:12:56 PM

Because they convinced themselves Biden is anti-Israel and have to reconcile that with the reality that the US is supporting Israel 100%, postponed the UNSC meeting, and then vetoed its statement. In Israel, the general sentiment is that international support is higher than it's ever been.

Of course he is anti-Israel.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bidens-dollar735-million-arms-sale-to-israel-to-include-missile-type-that-hit-gaza-tower/ar-BB1gQlIM?li=BBnbfcL

YitzyS · « **Reply #414 on:** May 18, 2021, 10:51:04 PM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on May 17, 2021, 05:16:03 PM

This is an undisputed fact...

See for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafr_Qasim_massacre

It's an undisputed fact that you don't talk sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toddler#Vocalization_and_socialization

At least in 1956 you didn't, but I maintain that it remains undisputed fact.

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #415 on:** May 19, 2021, 05:48:27 PM »

https://twitter.com/ahmad_tibi/status/1395112942375407619

CountValentine · « **Reply #416 on:** May 19, 2021, 06:16:39 PM »

Quote from: TimT on May 19, 2021, 06:10:45 PM

source ?source ?

Trump is a draft dodging coward and would turn his back on Israel if they needed troops. He said our great servicemen are suckers for going to fight these wars.

Answered here as not to clutter the other thread with this scumbag. @TimT

zh cohen · « **Reply #417 on:** May 19, 2021, 06:27:29 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on May 19, 2021, 06:16:39 PM

He said our great servicemen are suckers for going to fight these wars.

This is a lie.

CountValentine · « **Reply #418 on:** May 19, 2021, 06:29:38 PM »

Quote from: zh cohen on May 19, 2021, 06:27:29 PM

This is a lie.

I agree, they are not suckers.

ExGingi · « **Reply #419 on:** May 19, 2021, 07:04:47 PM »

Quote from: CountValentine on May 19, 2021, 06:16:39 PM

Trump is a draft dodging coward and would turn his back on Israel if they needed troops. He said our great servicemen are suckers for going to fight these wars.

Answered here as not to clutter the other thread with this scumbag. @TimT

What did he actually do in Syria?