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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #440 on: May 20, 2021, 10:30:29 AM »
No I am not confused. AFAIK we never sent troops. CMIIW but Israel never asked for US troops.
I was talking about a situation G-d forbid where they needed US troops.

We’re on the same page.

I don’t think it would heaven forbid come to that. Including reserves Israel probably has 2m soldiers, and they rely on an arms advantage, military intelligence, and strategy, to compensate for their relatively small army.

In the Yom Kippur was when they were in dire straits and it was due to an arms shortage (eventually America airlifted arms, but it could have saved many lives if they had done so sooner and allowed Israel to go on the offensive instead of downplaying the likelihood of a war breaking out), not a personnel shortage. This was arguably the worst military situation in Israel’s history.
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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #441 on: May 20, 2021, 10:58:59 AM »
Should be fired immediately

It is being reported that he was indeed fired.
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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #442 on: May 20, 2021, 11:11:12 AM »
It is being reported that he was indeed fired.
What did he say as Google translate failed again.
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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #443 on: May 20, 2021, 11:25:07 AM »
What did he say as Google translate failed again.

"A rocket fell in a soccer field in an Arab neighborhood, and unfortunately it did not cause many deaths."

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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #444 on: May 20, 2021, 11:27:04 AM »
No I am not confused. AFAIK we never sent troops. CMIIW but Israel never asked for US troops.
I was talking about a situation G-d forbid where they needed US troops.
Israel has always objected to international forces. Globes reports the policy may change now that Hamas is too powerful.
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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #445 on: May 20, 2021, 11:28:45 AM »
This is a lie and in bad faith.
Interesting that over 5 people objected to it, but nobody managed to articulate an argument against it, never mind prove it.
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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #446 on: May 20, 2021, 12:55:42 PM »
https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/רמב%22ן_על_בראשית_טז

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"ותענה שרי ותברח מפניה" - חטאה אמנו בענוי הזה וגם אברהם בהניחו לעשות כן ושמע ה' אל עניה ונתן לה בן שיהא פרא אדם לענות זרע אברהם ושרה בכל מיני הענוי


The first cause of the Arab/Jewish conflict was Jewish...
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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #447 on: May 20, 2021, 01:04:49 PM »
Interesting that over 5 people objected to it, but nobody managed to articulate an argument against it, never mind prove it.
Similar to you and the person you quoted.
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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #448 on: May 20, 2021, 01:12:49 PM »
https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/רמב%22ן_על_בראשית_טז
 

The first cause of the Arab/Jewish conflict was Jewish...
No, the cause was Pere Adam. As usual, the media just captures Israel's response to the Pere Adam.

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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #449 on: May 20, 2021, 01:13:55 PM »
https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/רמב%22ן_על_בראשית_טז
 

The first cause of the Arab/Jewish conflict was Jewish...
Victim blaming if there ever was...
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #450 on: May 20, 2021, 01:38:15 PM »
Interesting that over 5 people objected to it, but nobody managed to articulate an argument against it, never mind prove it.

Firstly, even according to this anodyne version, Israel ceases to exist as a Jewish state. While not necessarily genocidal, it most certainly isn't tenable and violates the same principles of Jewish self-determinism that are being made on behalf of Palestinians.

Secondly, I posted a link to a Youtube channel with hundreds of videos with Palestinian and Muslim leaders and clergymen stating their position quite clearly: From the river to the sea means an Islamic state that is Judenrein, or with the Jews "driven into the sea" to borrow an oft-quoted phrase. Even for those without the murderous "drive them into the sea" intent, there are countless written and video pieces of people using the phrase stating clearly that Jews do not belong in such a state and they should "return where they came from", and not that Jews would be allowed in this mythical Palestinian state.

It's absolutely asinine that I'm even typing this out. It is impossible for anyone who has paid attention to this issue for more than 8 seconds to not know this. @Dan this is what @aygart and I were talking about. How can you possibly have a civil discussion with such blatant ridiculousness, even if it is written with proper grammar and punctuation?

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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #451 on: May 20, 2021, 02:00:03 PM »
It's absolutely asinine that I'm even typing this out. It is impossible for anyone who has paid attention to this issue for more than 8 seconds to not know this. @Dan this is what @aygart and I were talking about. How can you possibly have a civil discussion with such blatant ridiculousness, even if it is written with proper grammar and punctuation?
Ping finally got me to open this thread.
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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #452 on: May 20, 2021, 02:05:11 PM »

Secondly, I posted a link to a Youtube channel with hundreds of videos with Palestinian and Muslim leaders and clergymen stating their position quite clearly: From the river to the sea means an Islamic state that is Judenrein, or with the Jews "driven into the sea" to borrow an oft-quoted phrase. Even for those without the murderous "drive them into the sea" intent, there are countless written and video pieces of people using the phrase stating clearly that Jews do not belong in such a state and they should "return where they came from", and not that Jews would be allowed in this mythical Palestinian state.

There are just as many Jews advocating for a Jewish State form sea to sea, throwing the Arabs into the sea.


The accurate point made in the tweet is that the vision of an Palestine from sea to see doesnt necessarily mean removing the Jews - Arabs would probably be the majority if they had an equal right of return.

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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #453 on: May 20, 2021, 02:14:55 PM »
There are just as many Jews advocating for a Jewish State form sea to sea, throwing the Arabs into the sea.


The accurate point made in the tweet is that the vision of an Palestine from sea to see doesnt necessarily mean removing the Jews - Arabs would probably be the majority if they had an equal right of return.
For sure.  ::)

The same as plenty of Jewish terrorists.

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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #454 on: May 20, 2021, 02:24:20 PM »
There are just as many Jews advocating for a Jewish State form sea to sea, throwing the Arabs into the sea.


The accurate point made in the tweet is that the vision of an Palestine from sea to see doesnt necessarily mean removing the Jews - Arabs would probably be the majority if they had an equal right of return.


It's official. Definitely a troll
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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #455 on: May 20, 2021, 02:35:27 PM »
Ping finally got me to open this thread.

Ok, how is this distinguishable from a troll?

There are just as many Jews advocating for a Jewish State form sea to sea, throwing the Arabs into the sea.

The accurate point made in the tweet is that the vision of an Palestine from sea to see doesnt necessarily mean removing the Jews - Arabs would probably be the majority if they had an equal right of return.


I'm not advocating a ban, I honestly don't know what I would do as an admin.

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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #456 on: May 20, 2021, 02:37:23 PM »
Amazing how annoyed you are by the truth.
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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #457 on: May 20, 2021, 02:43:51 PM »
Amazing how annoyed you are by the truth.
Do you really believe that?
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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #458 on: May 20, 2021, 02:45:24 PM »
Do you really believe that?
Yeah.
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Re: Geopolitics and Wars of Israel
« Reply #459 on: May 20, 2021, 02:48:05 PM »
Yeah.
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