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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1020 on: September 14, 2022, 11:12:04 PM »
I think I've found more detail in the past, but right now all I can find is that they claim 100% capacity up to 5F, which is generally fine for NYC. I assume it's lower from -13 to 5, but I couldn't find the hard numbers just now.
100% capacity of what? I am seeing units at the high limits of 40-50k btu. That would not work for me.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1021 on: September 14, 2022, 11:15:22 PM »
100% capacity of what? I am seeing units at the high limits of 40-50k btu. That would not work for me.

With splits you usually have a bunch not one for the whole house or floor.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1022 on: September 14, 2022, 11:25:39 PM »
100% capacity of what? I am seeing units at the high limits of 40-50k btu. That would not work for me.
100% of the rated capacity of the outdoor unit. I happen to have two 36k units, paired to a total of 8 indoor units.
With splits you usually have a bunch not one for the whole house or floor.
+1. You can get the btu's needed for any size house, same as full central.

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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1023 on: September 14, 2022, 11:42:16 PM »
100% of the rated capacity of the outdoor unit. I happen to have two 36k units, paired to a total of 8 indoor units.+1. You can get the btu's needed for any size house, same as full central.
I was thinking you had one unit.  :-[
How expensive was your two units, over 20K?
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1024 on: September 14, 2022, 11:52:09 PM »
I was thinking you had one unit.  :-[
How expensive was your two units, over 20K?
Actual price for everything installed was just under $20k. But I also had insurance money from the boiler and AC's that were ruined, plus huge rebates from a NYC program, so it was better than free. Last year NYC was paying close to the full cost of the system if you capped off your boiler or furnace. Think there was a thread or two about that here.

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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1025 on: September 15, 2022, 12:05:05 AM »
Actual price for everything installed was just under $20k. But I also had insurance money from the boiler and AC's that were ruined, plus huge rebates from a NYC program, so it was better than free. Last year NYC was paying close to the full cost of the system if you capped off your boiler or furnace. Think there was a thread or two about that here.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1026 on: September 15, 2022, 12:13:11 AM »
Actual price for everything installed was just under $20k. But I also had insurance money from the boiler and AC's that were ruined, plus huge rebates from a NYC program, so it was better than free. Last year NYC was paying close to the full cost of the system if you capped off your boiler or furnace. Think there was a thread or two about that here.
And all you needed to do was cap it not remove it. What percentage do you think are still capped?
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1027 on: September 19, 2022, 11:58:40 PM »
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1028 on: September 21, 2022, 07:28:27 PM »
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1029 on: September 21, 2022, 07:34:00 PM »
Duquesne Light's (PIT) default auction did not procure enough for Medium Commercial and Industrial customers

https://www.duquesnedsp.com/Portals/0/Results/Secretarial_Letter_Duquesne_September_2022.pdf

"The supply for medium C&I customers was undersubscribed and only three of the four available tranches were
procured. Therefore, we direct DLC to enact its contingency plan regarding the medium C&I customer
procurement in accordance with its default service plan."
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1030 on: September 21, 2022, 08:07:21 PM »
@moko are you ready for .33/kWh electricity this winter?

https://www.nationalgridus.com/media/pdfs/billing-payments/electric-rates/ma/resitable.pdf
This is for supply. Add another ~.14 for delivery and you're looking at a total cost of nearly .50/kWh.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1031 on: September 21, 2022, 08:08:36 PM »
Duke Energy OH was only able to procure 20 out of 40 tranches scheduled to be procured for the 2023/24 energy year due to limited participation in the auction. I wonder if this was an effect of NOPEC's games.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1032 on: September 21, 2022, 08:31:19 PM »
@moko are you ready for .33/kWh electricity this winter?

https://www.nationalgridus.com/media/pdfs/billing-payments/electric-rates/ma/resitable.pdf
you got an alternative for me?
I'm thinking of getting off grid

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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1033 on: September 21, 2022, 08:35:40 PM »
you got an alternative for me?
I'm thinking of getting off grid
How? Solar won't be reliable there over the winter
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1034 on: September 21, 2022, 08:47:35 PM »
What is rates in Lakewood looking like?

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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1035 on: September 21, 2022, 08:49:00 PM »
How? Solar won't be reliable there over the winter
off grid off grid. Candle light and wood burning stoves

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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1036 on: September 21, 2022, 09:07:27 PM »
What is rates in Lakewood looking like?
Stable until June
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1037 on: September 21, 2022, 09:16:57 PM »
off grid off grid. Candle light and wood burning stoves
Have you checked the price of lumber?
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1038 on: September 21, 2022, 09:38:59 PM »
Have you checked the price of lumber?
that's what trees are for

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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #1039 on: September 21, 2022, 09:40:42 PM »
that's what trees are for
They let you cut them down there? Nobody hugging them?
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