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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #200 on: March 04, 2022, 09:00:59 AM »



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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #201 on: March 04, 2022, 09:06:34 AM »
The R's are all in favor of sanctions on oil which will send gas prices through the roof. I guess the increase under Biden is worse than sending prices through the roof?
Good thing no one has a political agenda here.  :)
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #202 on: March 04, 2022, 10:17:05 AM »
The R's are all in favor of sanctions on oil which will send gas prices through the roof. I guess the increase under Biden is worse than sending prices through the roof?
Good thing no one has a political agenda here.  :)
It's clear that the energy sector is Russia's greatest source of income, but the D's are unwilling to get their head out of the sand and realize that the reason Russia has this income is because they think that by outsourcing their fossil fuel production they somehow make the world cleaner.

As I mentioned previously, the same goes for their attacks on the cleanest fossil fuel - NG. By blocking NG they are in effect propping up coal. If NG was allowed to thrive, coal would be dead already.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #203 on: March 04, 2022, 10:21:39 AM »

FTR, I think this cartoon is dumb and inaccurate (even if it highlights some actual issues), but that empty thought bubble is genius.

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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #204 on: March 04, 2022, 10:24:42 AM »
It's clear that the energy sector is Russia's greatest source of income, but the D's are unwilling to get their head out of the sand and realize that the reason Russia has this income is because they think that by outsourcing their fossil fuel production they somehow make the world cleaner.
They will get the income either way. From "us" or someone else. It is a global market.

If the R's want to block imports, then tell the public the truth. This will increase gas x amount per gallon. It will be bigger than any increase so far.

The fact is these massive sanctions are destroying their economy and the ruble. We have never seen anything like this before. Lot of things to after Biden for but his sanctions are a massive success.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #205 on: March 04, 2022, 10:25:18 AM »
FTR, I think this cartoon is dumb and inaccurate (even if it highlights some actual issues), but that empty thought bubble is genius.
Which part is inaccurate? The less we produce the more Russia sells.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #206 on: March 04, 2022, 10:26:50 AM »

Supporters of the last admin have been accused of having a low IQ. This cartoon only enforces that accusation.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #207 on: March 04, 2022, 10:29:32 AM »
They will get the income either way. From "us" or someone else. It is a global market.

If the R's want to block imports, then tell the public the truth. This will increase gas x amount per gallon. It will be bigger than any increase so far.

The fact is these massive sanctions are destroying their economy and the ruble. We have never seen anything like this before. Lot of things to after Biden for but his sanctions are a massive success.
I agree that blocking Russian oil won't do anything to Russia. Increasing production will impact Russia because it will bring prices down and there will be more competition leading to Russia selling less oil. I'm sure that if the US announces the removal of oil and NG roadblocks to allow for more production, we will see a huge drop in prices. Even if it will take time for the production to come online.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #208 on: March 04, 2022, 10:53:47 AM »
Increasing production will impact Russia because it will bring prices down and there will be more competition leading to Russia selling less oil. I'm sure that if the US announces the removal of oil and NG roadblocks to allow for more production, we will see a huge drop in prices. Even if it will take time for the production to come online.
We are in agreement on this. The issue is how we go about (environmental issues, renewable sources).
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #209 on: March 04, 2022, 10:57:13 AM »
CA, first time ever a state has averaged over $5/gal. Only the rightwing nutcases are blaming Biden at this point.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #210 on: March 04, 2022, 12:10:06 PM »
CA, first time ever a state has averaged over $5/gal. Only the rightwing nutcases are blaming Biden at this point.
Why are you calling yourself a right wing nutcase? It happened under his watch!
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #211 on: March 04, 2022, 12:16:24 PM »
Why are you calling yourself a right wing nutcase? It happened under his watch!
Credit and blame are not the same, but I see what you did there.  :)
You also have to use common sense when we use goalposts. When you have the worst mass shooting in history it can happen under your watch but not receive the blame. 
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #212 on: March 04, 2022, 12:22:28 PM »

You also have to use common sense when we use goalposts.
At least when it is convenient for your argument. Never when the counterargument says the same thing.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #213 on: March 04, 2022, 12:26:41 PM »
At least when it is convenient for your argument. Never when the counterargument says the same thing.
When you have an argument who gets credit for the market going up you need goalposts.
Do you really think I would give Biden credit for ME peace that happened in first few months of his admin?
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #214 on: March 04, 2022, 12:31:11 PM »
When you have an argument who gets credit for the market going up you need goalposts.
Do you really think I would give Biden credit for ME peace that happened in first few months of his admin?

If you can blame a global virus on a president, then nothing is off the table.

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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #215 on: March 04, 2022, 12:33:44 PM »
If you can blame a global virus on a president, then nothing is off the table.
This is exactly what I am talking about. The virus started under the last admin. I don't blame them for the virus. My issue is with the response they had.

Anyone that blames the last admin for the virus is a nutcase!!!
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #216 on: March 04, 2022, 12:34:55 PM »
When you have an argument who gets credit for the market going up you need goalposts.
Do you really think I would give Biden credit for ME peace that happened in first few months of his admin?
Whenever anyone else starts with any reason why some random goalposts are not a good barometer you start with your statements of how important they are and how it makes no difference as long as goalposts. Here is no different.

Besides, as long as there is an argument to be made of how Biden policies caused the generally high prices there were before the Ukraine crisis started then there is the argument to blame for this too. Had the supply not been as tight to start with then this would not have had as much of an effect. When we are in a situation without any leeway that causes these bumps to have an outsized effect. if the entire crisis can be blamed on him with an argument that we would not have gotten here under the previous admin then the effects of the crisis are also on him.

These are possible rational arguments, but I don't agree with all aspects of them.

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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #217 on: March 04, 2022, 12:41:25 PM »
The main purpose of goalposts is to have ground rules. It is like with masks. When you use the CDC only when they agree with you that doesn't fly. Then you need goalposts.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #219 on: March 04, 2022, 12:55:38 PM »

Only going to get worse with the war. Biden is off the hook.  ;)
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