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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #560 on: March 13, 2022, 09:49:44 PM »
Good article but I don't understand the we need to transition gradually. Shouldn't we be there by now?
Facts are we are not there yet.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #561 on: March 13, 2022, 10:26:42 PM »
Facts are we are not there yet.
I understand that but my point is why not? It is not like this problem started yesterday.
IMHO it is just lip service from the oil companies.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #562 on: March 13, 2022, 10:36:28 PM »
I understand that but my point is why not? It is not like this problem started yesterday.
IMHO it is just lip service from the oil companies.
Are you asking why we haven't moved entirely to renewable yet?
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #563 on: March 13, 2022, 10:40:08 PM »
Are you asking why we haven't moved entirely to renewable yet?
It doesn't seem we are no where near entirely there.

Also why no talk of nuclear? Is that more taboo than oil/coal?
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #564 on: March 13, 2022, 10:57:33 PM »
It doesn't seem we are no where near entirely there.

Also why no talk of nuclear? Is that more taboo than oil/coal?
Because the technology is nowhere near there yet.
Because these are fossil companies and nuclear is also opposed by the enviromentalists. There was nobody there to promote it.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #565 on: March 13, 2022, 11:01:31 PM »
It doesn't seem we are no where near entirely there.

Also why no talk of nuclear? Is that more taboo than oil/coal?
We aren't anywhere near entirely there. Look at this screenshot I just took of the PJM fuel mix (PJM is the power grid for NJ, PA, OH, DE, MD, VA, WV, and parts of some other states). Even now when the load is relatively low we have 60% coming from coal and NG. Other than nuclear, renewables barely make a dent.

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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #566 on: March 13, 2022, 11:03:00 PM »
We aren't anywhere near entirely there. Look at this screenshot I just took of the PJM fuel mix (PJM is the power grid for NJ, PA, OH, DE, MD, VA, WV, and parts of some other states). Even now when the load is relatively low we have 60% coming from coal and NG. Other than nuclear, renewables barely make a dent.


Well it is dark outside. Kinda hard to have solar power now.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #567 on: March 13, 2022, 11:06:24 PM »
Well it is dark outside. Kinda hard to have solar power now.
Considering that it didn't even hit 4,000MW today, it only brings up renewables slightly. Still overwhelmingly coal and NG with a decent showing from nuclear.

ETA: I'm sure there's a decent amount of behind the meter solar generation that never reaches the grid, but it's still very far away from renewables being the majority.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #568 on: March 13, 2022, 11:07:58 PM »
Well it is dark outside. Kinda hard to have solar power now.
Is that like going to the sun at night?  :)
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #569 on: March 13, 2022, 11:11:31 PM »
Considering that it didn't even hit 4,000MW today, it only brings up renewables slightly. Still overwhelmingly coal and NG with a decent showing from nuclear.

ETA: I'm sure there's a decent amount of behind the meter solar generation that never reaches the grid, but it's still very far away from renewables being the majority.
Certainly. This illustrates why we are not there yet. We still need electricity at night, when it is cloudy, when there is snow on the panels, etc. It is also not cost effective without very high subsidies.
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #570 on: March 14, 2022, 11:38:31 AM »
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #571 on: March 14, 2022, 11:48:14 AM »
Because the technology is nowhere near there yet.
Because these are fossil companies and nuclear is also opposed by the enviromentalists. There was nobody there to promote it.
+1
Indian Point (a nuclear power plant near NYC) was recently shut down.

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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #572 on: March 14, 2022, 05:35:31 PM »
https://www.aii.org/an-artificial-energy-crisis/

I am having difficulty figuring out the tilt of this organization because for some items they tilt left and some right from what I can tell with a quick look.

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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #573 on: March 14, 2022, 06:30:42 PM »
https://www.aii.org/an-artificial-energy-crisis/

I am having difficulty figuring out the tilt of this organization because for some items they tilt left and some right from what I can tell with a quick look.
Didn't read it yet but maybe they are "I"?
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #574 on: March 14, 2022, 06:33:08 PM »
Didn't read it yet but maybe they are "I"?
Maybe
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #575 on: March 15, 2022, 08:55:42 AM »
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #577 on: March 15, 2022, 10:24:08 PM »
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
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Re: Biden’s Gas Crisis
« Reply #579 on: March 16, 2022, 12:22:26 AM »
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