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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2021, 02:17:50 PM »
How many tragedy's will it take for ppl to learn their lesson?

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2021, 02:20:06 PM »
How many tragedy will it take for ppl to learn their lesson?

Its Assur to rely on a Neis!
Can you do yourself & the world a favor & just say some tehillim ? Thanks

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2021, 02:21:38 PM »
How many tragedy's will it take for ppl to learn their lesson?

Its Assur to rely on a Neis!
Stolin happens to be known for being extremely careful with health and safety, BTW.

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2021, 02:22:59 PM »
How many tragedy's will it take for ppl to learn their lesson?

Its Assur to rely on a Neis!
Which lesson? There has been many more people than this on parenches for 40 years and BH they're built professionally with no incidents in recent years.

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2021, 02:26:27 PM »
Stolin happens to be known for being extremely careful with health and safety,
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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2021, 02:27:41 PM »
Stolin happens to be known for being extremely careful with health and safety, BTW.

-1. Have you ever been to Camp Stolin USA?

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2021, 02:31:36 PM »
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If there’s negligence here it would be with whoever put together the bleachers.
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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2021, 02:34:18 PM »
If there’s negligence here it would be with whoever put together the bleachers.

Guys are still fighting for their lives and on DDF the blame is being assigned. Wow.

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2021, 02:36:38 PM »
How many tragedy's will it take for ppl to learn their lesson?

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2021, 02:37:33 PM »
but the building was not deemed fit for occupancy yet (from what I've read)
Where'd you see this ?

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2021, 02:38:04 PM »

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2021, 02:46:39 PM »
How in the world does this have anything to do with what just happened?
It wouldn’t have happened today. Would’ve happened some other time instead.

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2021, 03:09:19 PM »
YWN is reporting that, Two people were R"L killed. Around 100 were injured, around 10 critically.

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2021, 03:34:28 PM »
*דוברות מד"א :* בהמשך לאירוע בגבעת זאב, עד כה (21:30), חובשים ופראמדיקים של מד"א קבעו את מותם של 2 פצועים, בהם גבר כבן 40 ונער כבן 12 ומפנים לבתי החולים 167 פצועים, בהם : 5 קשה, 10 בינוני, ו- 152 קל.

לבי"ח שערי צדק פונו 88 פצועים, 2 קשה, 6 בינוני ו-80 קל.

לבי"ח הדסה הר הצופים פונו 22 פצועים, 1 בינוני ו-21 קל.

לבי"ח הדסה עין כרם פונו 51 פצועים, בהם 3 קשה, 3 בינוני ו-45 קל

לבי"ח שיבא בתל השומר פונו 4 פצועים קל

לבי"ח שמיר-אסף הרופא פונו 2 פצועים קל

כוחות גדוליל של חובשים ופראמדיקים של מד"א נמצאים בזירת באירוע וערוכים להעניק טיפול רפואי במידה ויאותרו פצועים נוספים בזירה. עדכון נוסף במידת הצורך. נדב

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2021, 03:42:04 PM »
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I only meant to say that one should not assume negligence. Accidents do happen and it is appropriate at this point to dan l'kaf zechus. If there is currently evidence showing carelessness or negligence then at this point the discussion is moot. Regardless of the teva, it would seem that Hashem is sending us more messages to do teshuva and cheshbon hanefesh. Seems unreal that just a little time has passed since Meron and another tragedy has occurred.

 
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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2021, 03:58:07 PM »
I failed to heed my own conscience and advice from the Meiron tragedy. I felt it best to remove my posts from this thread. They were insensitive and ill-timed, and I hope anyone who was offended accepts my apology. Good yomtov.
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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2021, 04:07:00 PM »
They were warned beforehand that the building hasn't passed inspection and that they need a permit for the event.
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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2021, 04:37:47 PM »
I failed to heed my own conscience and advice from the Meiron tragedy. I felt it best to remove my posts from this thread. They were insensitive and ill-timed, and I hope anyone who was offended accepts my apology. Good yomtov.
I think I was able to delete my post before anyone noticed.  :-[
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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2021, 05:38:21 PM »
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If there’s negligence here it would be with whoever put together the bleachers.
I just saw a video, the bleachers that fell down in the back were built with strings attaching the wood to the metal
The front bleachers were built normally

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2021, 05:46:41 PM »
I just saw a video, the bleachers that fell down in the back were built with strings attaching the wood to the metal
The front bleachers were built normally
Looks like the top part was a temporary addition to the existing bleachers