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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #140 on: May 19, 2021, 06:58:34 PM »
Was actually a huge Kiddush Hashem seeing the full cooperation with emergency personnel regardless of gender/modesty level etc. Everyone was treated respectfully, and they were very impressed.
An example from one of the nurses:


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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #141 on: May 19, 2021, 07:01:32 PM »
Where did everybody sleep ?
All the neighbors opened their houses and porches, and they spread mattresses everywhere. Some in the old shul, too. Even the Rebbe opened the Kabolas Kahal waiting room (part of his house) so some more can have place to sleep

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #142 on: May 19, 2021, 07:37:04 PM »
The Karlin-Stolin Rebbe remained at the scene of the collapse, overseeing the evacuation of the wounded. After all were evacuated, he davened Maariv in the Chassidus’s older beis medrash in Givat Ze’ev. Afterwards, he announced: “We managed to get through the past year [of COVID] without losses, as we were careful at all times. We managed to get through the disaster in Meron, even though the [Divine] decree was on all of Klal Yisrael, but ‘from where can I flee from You?’ It is impossible to run away from the decree. It’s impossible to hide. The decree was upon us as well.”


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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #144 on: May 19, 2021, 08:19:28 PM »
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/1974962/tel-aviv-police-fraud-unit-to-investigate-karlin-stolin-disaster.html
“An initial investigation points to a serious failure in the construction of the bleachers. Karlin Chassidus will act with transparency and responsibility and cooperate with the authorities investigating the terrible incident.”

I guess wire-ties are not code.
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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #145 on: May 19, 2021, 08:34:23 PM »
So they were allowed to use the building ?

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #146 on: May 19, 2021, 08:44:14 PM »
So they were allowed to use the building ?
Davening was in the old beis mesrdsh/street and the mikvah was closed the next morning. With that information, I would assume it was closed....

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #147 on: May 19, 2021, 08:46:48 PM »
Davening was in the old beis mesrdsh/street and the mikvah was closed the next morning. With that information, I would assume it was closed....
This article is quoting them saying they had all the necessary approvals.

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #152 on: May 19, 2021, 11:45:12 PM »

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #154 on: May 20, 2021, 03:03:35 AM »
Putting hundreds of people on a makeshift platform held together by zip ties without any professional construction or oversight, not to mention the entire place didn’t have a certificate of occupancy
Come on. Everyone knows that a tofes 4 is held up for the most arbitrary reasons many times. Why mix that in.
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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #155 on: May 20, 2021, 03:05:45 AM »
This setup looks beyond bad
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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #156 on: May 20, 2021, 09:51:02 AM »
Wikki added for those who want to help

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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #157 on: May 20, 2021, 10:03:00 AM »
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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #158 on: May 20, 2021, 11:44:57 AM »
Come on. Everyone knows that a tofes 4 is held up for the most arbitrary reasons many times. Why mix that in.
That’s exactly the problem. You’re justifying breaking safety laws because you think the law isn’t fair.
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Re: Bleachers Collapse In Karlin-Stolin
« Reply #159 on: May 20, 2021, 11:46:46 AM »
https://twitter.com/joshbreiner/status/1395345246297509888

Dovid Aryeh Froind (פריינד) is the Karlin chossid under arrest.
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