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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #105 on: April 09, 2012, 08:31:56 PM »
Quote from: aussiebochur on April 09, 2012, 07:45:49 PM
Why return via CDG? Check NH HND-LAX and AA NRT/HND-JFK which both generally have very good availability.

How would I get from PPT-HND/NRT? Would I have to book a separate award?

Quote from: aussiebochur on April 09, 2012, 07:45:49 PM
That's a very long time in transit...

Too long?

The way I have it now, we can explore/eat in FRA and in BKK...
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Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #106 on: April 09, 2012, 09:45:27 PM »
Quote from: AJK on April 09, 2012, 08:31:56 PM
Too long?

The way I have it now, we can explore/eat in FRA and in BKK...
Still a long tone
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Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #107 on: April 09, 2012, 09:48:24 PM »
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #108 on: April 10, 2012, 01:24:34 AM »
Looks like there's 2 biz PPT-LAX on 5/21.

Put em hold while you can...
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #109 on: April 10, 2012, 09:33:37 AM »
Quote from: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 01:24:34 AM
Looks like there's 2 biz PPT-LAX on 5/21.

Put em hold while you can...

Yeah, I saw those. I'm just trying to figure out if I fly NYC-CDG-PPT-LAX-NYC if I'll be getting gouged on the the number of miles needed.

It seems to me that I'd need:

a OW award from NYC-CDG on a carrier that only charges half of a RT
a OW award from CDG-PPT (any idea if TN charges half for OW?)
a OW award from PPT-LAX, and
a OW award from LAX-NYC (maybe AA?)

Seems like I'd have to use a whole bunch more miles than if I were able to secure a LAX-PPT-LAX route, right?
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #110 on: April 10, 2012, 09:43:02 AM »
Quote from: AJK on April 10, 2012, 09:33:37 AM
Yeah, I saw those. I'm just trying to figure out if I fly NYC-CDG-PPT-LAX-NYC if I'll be getting gouged on the the number of miles needed.

It seems to me that I'd need:

a OW award from NYC-CDG on a carrier that only charges half of a RT
a OW award from CDG-PPT (any idea if TN charges half for OW?)
a OW award from PPT-LAX, and
a OW award from LAX-NYC (maybe AA?)

Seems like I'd have to use a whole bunch more miles than if I were able to secure a LAX-PPT-LAX route, right?
NY-CDG OW award.

CDG-PPT-LAX is OW with AA and PPT-LAX-NY is return with AA.

Could book with Delta as well but they started charging YQ on TN and LAX-NY isnt easy to find at saver level.

Btw, what was the cost of MLE-AUH-JFK? Did you hold with AA?
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #111 on: April 10, 2012, 09:52:10 AM »
Quote from: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 09:43:02 AM
NY-CDG OW award.

CDG-PPT-LAX is OW with AA and PPT-LAX-NY is return with AA.

Could book with Delta as well but they started charging YQ on TN and LAX-NY isnt easy to find at saver level.

Btw, what was the cost of MLE-AUH-JFK? Did you hold with AA?

Wow, I had no idea DL imposed YQ on TN. That's a tremendously disappointing surprise. (I thought that was the one reason SkyPesos aren't as bad as they're made out to be.) Not that there are any available for the next three months, but does DL charge YQ on AF redemptions to PPT?

The MLE-AUH-JFK in F cost 180K (90K each), and yeah, I held it with AA.

Quote from: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 09:43:56 AM
Go to Bora Bora! ;)

(Figured I'd respond here to keep it on topic)

I see you're pushing for BOB :)

Gary actually just did a TR of his trip to the Maldives and he said he liked it better...

For me the Maldives is better for one reason: I have Hyatt points/nights. I'd have to finagle and/or sell/buy points to make BOB work in an OWB.

BOB is better as I could stopover in LAX on the way back, it seems like its closer, and its BOB!!
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #112 on: April 10, 2012, 09:57:25 AM »
Quote from: AJK on April 10, 2012, 09:52:10 AM
Wow, I had no idea DL imposed YQ on TN. That's a tremendously disappointing surprise. (I thought that was the one reason SkyPesos aren't as bad as they're made out to be.) Not that there are any available for the next three months, but does DL charge YQ on AF redemptions to PPT?

The MLE-AUH-JFK in F cost 180K, and yeah, I held it with AA.
No YQ with AF.

180k each?
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #113 on: April 10, 2012, 10:00:58 AM »
Quote from: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 09:57:25 AM
No YQ with AF.

180k each?

90K each. I fixed it above and added a couple things.
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #114 on: April 10, 2012, 10:26:49 AM »
Thats good. For some time AA wasnt pricing it as one award.

You really have to add everything up and see what works best for you.
Id still put the PPT flights on hold just in case.

Either way, it would be a massive let down to not get an OWB which seems to be only able to be confirmed with $$$.
May be worth comparing those as well as the point amounts...
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #115 on: April 10, 2012, 10:33:34 AM »
Quote from: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 10:26:49 AM
Thats good. For some time AA wasnt pricing it as one award.

Yeah, I had read that. But, thankfully, the past two times I've held MLE-AUH-JFK, it priced at 90K each.

Quote from: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 10:26:49 AM
You really have to add everything up and see what works best for you.
Id still put the PPT flights on hold just in case.

Either way, it would be a massive let down to not get an OWB which seems to be only able to be confirmed with $$$.
May be worth comparing those as well as the point amounts...

You're 100% right. To get an OWB confirmed in MLE, I'd need 22K Hyatt and $350 (plus taxes/fees). Not a terrible deal, but when I consider that I could get an OWB in BOB at the Hilton for about the same cost (or perhaps even cheaper someplace else), MLE doesn't look AS attractive.

Man this is a tough decision.
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #116 on: April 10, 2012, 11:12:37 AM »
It may be worth checking what the OWB cost outright.

OWB, 22k Hyatt @ 1.65 =$363+350=$713++ per night...

There are often offers (especially if booked through Amex FHR or a Virtuoso agent) of stay x, get 1 night free which may work for you.
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #117 on: April 10, 2012, 11:20:13 AM »
Quote from: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 10:55:58 AM
Just looking at the points side of things,
Hyatt: 5 nights @ 22K Hyatt=110K (valued) @ 1.65cpp =$1815
Hilton: 5 nights (presuming youre Gold) 200K (valued) @ .5cpp=$1000

Your Hilton and Hyatt numbers are just for a base room.

To get a Hyatt OWB, you need 22,000 + $350 per night.
To get a Hilton OWB, you need about 125,000 per night--and availability isn't so easy to find. (I think you may be able to straight out pay for the room for about $8-900.)

Quote from: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 10:55:58 AM
Then again, youll have 4 nights in Paris which need to be paid for.
But its a trip itself...

As far as flights go:
NY-CDG: 50k UA
CDG-LAX-PPT: 60k AA (Needs double checking)
PPT-LAX-NY: 62.5k AA

OR

NY-FRA-BKK-CMB:60k UA
MLE-AUH-JFK: 90k AA

But no doubt the planes on the second itinerary blow the first out of the water.

I wouldn't have to stay four nights in Paris, but you're right, those nights need to be paid for.

Actually, the NY-FRA-BKK-CMB itin is costing me 80K because FRA-BKK is in F. So, total for NY-MLE its: 80K UA + ~$200 (for the CMB-MLE leg).

If it matters, the BOB trip is 20,000 miles traveled, and the MLE trip is 28,000.
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #118 on: April 10, 2012, 11:23:54 AM »
Quote from: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 11:12:37 AM
It may be worth checking what the OWB cost outright.

OWB, 22k Hyatt @ 1.65 =$363+350=$713++ per night...

There are often offers (especially if booked through Amex FHR or a Virtuoso agent) of stay x, get 1 night free which may work for you.

A Hyatt OWB, purchased outright, is about $1200.

Even if I found a stay 4, get 5th free, I wouldn't come out ahead: $4800 vs. $3565.

I wonder if it's possible to only pay the $350 buyup for the first night? If so, maybe they wouldn't kick us out of the OWB for the remainder (assuming they had availability).

Man, this whole endeavor would be so much simpler with an unlimited budget, eh? :)
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #119 on: April 10, 2012, 11:32:41 AM »
I deleted my post to update it because I forgot about Hilton's "enchantment" of HHonors with Premium Room Rewards...

(OT, but who wants to bet we will see lots of those at the Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem?)

If paying, it opens a whole new can of worms. Theres tons of properties, no need to stick with the big brands...
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