Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?

[aussiebochur]

They read like suspense novels, I only with the author would write them for other cities in the world.

I'd be more jealous of someone doing the entire Kalalau trail than just about anything right now besides going to outer space.

So which book do I start with?

[Dan]

So which book do I start with?

Kauai>Maui>Hawaii>Oahu.

[aussiebochur]

Kauai>Maui>Hawaii>Oahu.

Library should have it, no?

[Dan]

Library should have it, no?

My local system doesn't carry it, but they were able to order it for me but that took a couple weeks.
Just depends on your time constraints.

[AJK]

OK, im convinced. Just put it on order at the local library

[aussiebochur]

They read like suspense novels, I only with the author would write them for other cities in the world.

I'd be more jealous of someone doing the entire Kalalau trail than just about anything right now besides going to outer space.

Can the whole trail be done in a (summers) day?

[Dan]

Can the whole trail be done in a (summers) day?

Definitely not, it's a multi-day trip and requires a camping permit.
Minimum would be 1 night camping.
The summer is the ideal time for it.
http://www.kalalautrail.com/

The book has a whole section devoted to it that will make you wanna do it, though I can't imagine when I'll have the chance.  The Waimea grand loop trail is probably as close as I'll get.

[AsherO]

At least in LIH you can do tons of activities or something crazy like hiking and camping along the stunning Kalalau Trail which you will likely never find a woman to do with you.

What makes you say that?

[Dan]

What makes you say that?

I'd wager that at least 95% of married jewish women wouldn't even consider going on a multi-day strenuous hike with primitive camping.
CMIIW folks.

[AJK]

I'd wager that at least 95% of married jewish women wouldn't even consider going on a multi-day strenuous hike with primitive camping.
CMIIW folks.

Gotta give a shoutout to my wife on that one... She'd def be in.

[Dan]

Gotta give a shoutout to my wife on that one... She'd def be in.

5%er


Also obviously doing such a hike with young children would be impossible.

[AJK]

5%er

<chuckles>

[PlatinumGuy]

I'd wager that at least 95% of married jewish women wouldn't even consider going on a multi-day strenuous hike with primitive camping.
CMIIW folks.

I think the number is a lot lower. Btw there are also Jewish Men who wouldn't consider it 

[AsherO]

I'd wager that at least 95% of married jewish women wouldn't even consider going on a multi-day strenuous hike with primitive camping.
CMIIW folks.

A 'dished-out friend of mine went with his wife on a honeymoon (6-8 months after their wedding) to the Grand Canyon, they slept in a tent for a week...

[Dan]

From the fact that hundreds of frum people have "discovered" LIH via DD and not one has ever done the Kalalau Trail AFAIK I'll stand by my guestimate.

[Dan]

A 'dished-out friend of mine went with his wife on a honeymoon (6-8 months after their wedding) to the Grand Canyon, they slept in a tent for a week...

Camping in place is one thing, but doing it while doing a very strenuous hike is another.

[AsherO]

From the fact that hundreds of frum people have "discovered" LIH via DD and not one has ever done the Kalalau Trail AFAIK I'll stand by my guestimate.

How many of those hundreds knew what your saying about the KT? How many even knew it existed? (I didn't until you mentioned it in this thread).

What does a nice trip to Hawaii cost (in points when possible) all-inclusive?

Camping in place is one thing, but doing it while doing a very strenuous hike is another.

How strenuous? Do you think I'm fit enough?

[Dan]

It's in my guide to each island that I used to give to my concierge clients, and mentioned in passing here:

Free stuff on LIH:
-Check out my Kauai trip report:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/6088
-Get a convertible! Just breathing in the incredibly fresh air of Kauai  and being surrounded by the greenery, mountains, and ocean are my biggest pleasures on Kauai.
-You can spend days hiking in beautiful Waimea Canyon.
-The most famous hike in Hawaii is the Kalalau trail where you can hike the Na Pali coastline.
-Find a private stretch of beach out by Polihale.
-Check out the accessible waterfalls like Wailua and Opaeka (most other Kauai waterfalls require hikes/helicopter)
Take the driving tour of Kauai as laid out in Kauai Revealed It would be a shame to go to any Hawaiian island without the appropriate "revealed" book for each island.  This is not like any other guidebook you've ever read.
-If you're at the Grand Hyatt Kauai take advantage of all of their free activities, like learning how to Scuba, etc.
-Snorkel with the amazing fish, whales, huge green sea turtles, and monk seals!
-There's a nice blowhole to see, but not as impressive as the one on Maui.

[Dan]

More Kalalau discussion:

I want to hike the Kalalau trail but the 50+ year olds in my party wouldn't enjoy that too much. Is it worth doing only the first mile or so ?  Also, how hard is the trail to follow?   (The only hikes I've ever done have either been with tours or friends who knew what they were doing! )

We were there a month ago. Unfortunately a lot of the trail was washed out by the recent heavy (even by Kauai standards) rain. In fact the road at the northern part of the island just to get to the trail was flooded. Perhaps it will be more accessible during the dryer summer months.

When I was there, most of the trail was under construction so we could only do the first couple of miles. My wife and I headed up a bit before sundown and watched one of the most beautiful sunsets of our lives (about a mile or two in). The tricky part is trying to get down a pretty tricky trail when it's getting darker and darker (Bring flashlights!) I'll try to post a picture if I have a chance.

YD: post the pic!

[Dan]

This is from an old edition of the guidebook, but FWIW: