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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #140 on: April 10, 2012, 02:58:09 PM »
The Hilton rep I just spoke to said they don't even offer standard redemptions at that hotel. Take from that what you will.
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #141 on: April 10, 2012, 03:18:02 PM »
I see plenty for later in the year
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #142 on: April 10, 2012, 03:27:42 PM »
I see plenty for later in the year

You're right. In fact, there are standard rates available for 7/27-8/05. Just another piece of evidence that shows CSRs don't know jack.
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #143 on: April 18, 2012, 02:54:40 PM »
If you decide on MLE, this should help you.

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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #144 on: April 18, 2012, 03:03:08 PM »
If you decide on MLE, this should help you.

Wow, does it.

Lots of J availability. Saw it this AM and totally didn't think to check to MLE.

Thanks!

How is their hard product?
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #145 on: April 18, 2012, 03:11:31 PM »

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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #146 on: April 19, 2012, 05:34:05 PM »
Anyone more knowledgeable than me care to rank these in terms of hard product in J?

LH A380
LH A330-300
LH A340-300
LH 747-400

LX A330-300

QR A320/321
QR A330-300
QR A340-600
QR 777-300ER

UA 777-200

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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #147 on: April 19, 2012, 05:35:47 PM »
LX A333 should be awesome.  LH lags.  UA depends on PMCO or PMUA.  QR I have no idea.
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #148 on: April 19, 2012, 05:38:42 PM »
Thanks.

So we have thus far:

  • LX A330-300
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I've heard all of LH's J product is angled flat (-1), and QR 777-300 is amazing.

Anyway to determine if a particular UA 777-200 will be the better PMCO?

Also, let me add LX 340-300 to the list.
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #150 on: April 19, 2012, 05:46:37 PM »
Great, so I'll just check the particular seating map on UA.com.

777-200 PMCO > LX A343?
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #151 on: April 19, 2012, 05:47:02 PM »
lx a330 and a340 is the same in business, beats lh by far. I also prefers LX seat over UA, but UA beats LH. QR I dont know

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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #152 on: April 19, 2012, 05:54:15 PM »
lx a330 and a340 is the same in business, beats lh by far. I also prefers LX seat over UA, but UA beats LH. QR I dont know
Aren't the A333s much newer than the A343s?  Should be less wear and tear on the seats, no?
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #153 on: April 22, 2012, 06:26:11 PM »
the a340 had the old seats taken out and new seats put in at the same time, that the a330 were delivered, so with Swiss youwill have the exact same business on all longhaul aircrafts. F Class is better on the a330 as they didnt refit the a340 with new f, as the old F is still good enough.

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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #154 on: April 22, 2012, 06:58:48 PM »
LX A333 better than LH on the new A380?

i.e. does the fact that I'd be flying on the A380 trump the better seat and service of the LX A333?
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #155 on: April 22, 2012, 06:59:39 PM »
i.e. does the fact that I'd be flying on the A380 trump the better seat and service of the LX A333?
Nope.
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #156 on: April 23, 2012, 12:25:34 AM »
OK, which itin wins?

(Yes, neither is the paradigm of efficiency, but booking Qatar is like pulling teeth, with phantom availability etc.)

Note on itin #1: DOH-MLE is actually only 4:45, not the 14:45 it shows, so the entire itin is actually 10 hours less than it states, or 29:40 (vs. the second itin's 28:15).

Both are 120K in J, but the second one is going to cost me an extra $150 in close-in fees.
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #157 on: April 23, 2012, 12:36:35 AM »
Neither.  I'd take the BRU, ZRH, or MUC options.
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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #158 on: April 23, 2012, 12:38:44 AM »
Neither.  I'd take the BRU, ZRH, or MUC options.

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Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
« Reply #159 on: April 23, 2012, 12:48:53 AM »
Also, I made these itin's to maximize time on the good J products (itin #1 = 12.5 hours on PMCO 772, and itin #2 = ~11 hrs on 773)

Itins from BRU/ZRH/MUC-MLE almost all just use QR's crappy A320/1 or A330, no?
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