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The Tulsa Massacre!
« on: June 01, 2021, 05:17:16 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

A dark time in our history that many are not aware of. A hundred years ago.
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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2021, 06:11:53 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/tulsa-massacre-how-watchmen-lovecraft-country-raised-public-awareness-for-the-tragedy/ar-AAKBRJJ?ocid=msedgntp

President Biden is commemorating the centennial of "the single worst incident of racial violence in American history," according to the Oklahoma Historical Society, and until two years ago, most Americans had never even heard of it.
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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2021, 06:13:46 PM »
Crazy. Also crazy that I didn't hear mention of it until recently.

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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2021, 06:51:55 PM »
Never heard.
My Spanish cleaning lady never heard of the holocaust.

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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2021, 07:24:01 PM »
Never heard.
My Spanish cleaning lady never heard of the holocaust.
Imagine a Jew or German not hearing of the Holocaust. I was taught all about the Civil Rights movement and slavery, KKK and MLK in school, but not about this.

Any reason this is not in JS?

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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2021, 07:28:04 PM »
Imagine a Jew or German not hearing of the Holocaust. I was taught all about the Civil Rights movement and slavery, KKK and MLK in school, but not about this.

Any reason this is not in JS?
Serious issues should not be in JS. I reported many topics in JS to have them move to GD.

The scale of the Holocaust itself should be a reason everyone should know about it. This is specific to the US.
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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2021, 08:49:46 PM »
Vox had a good piece on it a few years ago, and then the recent TV adaptation of Watchmen dramatized it in the opening scene of the first episode, including showing the fact that attackers use airplanes to fire rifles and drop firebombs.

I would add that this story with the discovery of a mass grave at an indigenous reeducation school in Canada is another example of terrible history people just don't know about (similar system existed in US).

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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2021, 09:36:20 PM »
According to these folks, 1/10 Gen-Z and millennial people have never heard of the Holocaust.
If that's true, well, this was a local event that may not have been widely reported.
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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2021, 09:36:38 PM »
according to the Oklahoma Historical Society, and until two years ago, most Americans had never even heard of it.
This. If you asked me before today if I heard of it I'd say no. But now that I read the Wikipedia article I vaguely remember reading about a similar story and am still not sure if it was this.
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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2021, 10:00:26 PM »
What's the point of this thread?

Joe Biden made a speech about this today and it's all over the news. I assume anyone here read the headlines today.

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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2021, 10:04:28 PM »
What's the point of this thread?
Been a hundred 100 years and many don't know about this massacre.

Can you imagine how a black feels? They were killing us 100 years ago and still are. Only now they have nice uniforms. Don't shoot the messenger.
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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2021, 10:07:05 PM »
What's the point of this thread?

Joe Biden made a speech about this today and it's all over the news. I assume anyone here read the headlines today.
You assumed wrong.
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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2021, 11:25:01 PM »
Would you say the black community, most of them knew about this?

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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2021, 12:01:18 AM »
Would you say the black community, most of them knew about this?

They discuss it every year at the annual meeting. I once snuck in because I'm an African American dual citizen.

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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2021, 12:11:50 AM »


Vox had a good piece on it a few years ago, and then the recent TV adaptation of Watchmen dramatized it in the opening scene of the first episode, including showing the fact that attackers use airplanes to fire rifles and drop firebombs.

I would add that this story with the discovery of a mass grave at an indigenous reeducation school in Canada is another example of terrible history people just don't know about (similar system existed in US).
Just remembered that the Indian boarding school thing I learned about from another Vox piece. They have a whole series on these type of not well known but significant ugly pieces of history, called Missing Chapter:


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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2021, 01:59:03 AM »
Been a hundred 100 years and many don't know about this massacre.

Can you imagine how a black feels? They were killing us 100 years ago and still are. Only now they have nice uniforms. Don't shoot the messenger.

Yes we definitely can imagine. This is our past, present, and future. Don't need to look back 100 years to understand how people can ignore these types of events. In 2021, racist attacks against Jews are 1000x worse (relatively) than blacks yet get 1 trillionth of the attention*.

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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2021, 03:49:50 AM »
Yes we definitely can imagine. This is our past, present, and future. Don't need to look back 100 years to understand how people can ignore these types of events. In 2021, racist attacks against Jews are 1000x worse (relatively) than blacks yet get 1 trillionth of the attention*.

*liberal exceptions may apply
Did you just compare probably the worse racist massacre in our country to what you are enduring now?
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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2021, 08:13:02 AM »
Did you just compare probably the worse racist massacre in our country to what you are enduring now?

No, I was comparing it to what you said about blacks today.

Though if you want to compare histories, don’t need to go back 100 years to see we’ve suffered a lot worse than the Tulsa massacre many times in many different regions.

Can you imagine how a black feels? They were killing us 100 years ago and still are. Only now they have nice uniforms. Don't shoot the messenger.
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Re: The Tulsa Massacre!
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2021, 08:23:37 AM »
Though if you want to compare histories, don’t need to go back 100 years to see we’ve suffered a lot worse than the Tulsa massacre many times in many different regions.
I was talking about in our country. We need to get our own house in order.
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