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Who is the "me" in this thread title about?

CountValentine
1 (9.1%)
yuneeq
4 (36.4%)
whoever reads it
3 (27.3%)
Jews
3 (27.3%)
something else
0 (0%)

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Author Topic: Everything is about me!  (Read 10393 times)

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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #80 on: June 04, 2021, 11:42:17 AM »
Something along the lines of I hate Jews but love Blacks. Didn't pay much attention it.

Like I said, I didn't see it, but if it was posted by anyone worth taking note of, they might have intended to show you what you essentially did when you started this thread. I don't think anyone here considers you an anti-Semite no matter how vigorously we argue. As for loving blacks, I'd take it  ;)

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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #81 on: June 04, 2021, 07:26:24 PM »
You don’t need to apologize for acting like an a******  if you didn’t mean it. But even better - I will shut up and apologize if a single person here understood the OP non-sarcastically or non-provocatively.
Not sure who added the poll but you might want to check it. You can either apologize or continue with insults. @yuneeq
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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #82 on: June 04, 2021, 07:28:10 PM »
Like I said, I didn't see it, but if it was posted by anyone worth taking note of, they might have intended to show you what you essentially did when you started this thread. I don't think anyone here considers you an anti-Semite no matter how vigorously we argue. As for loving blacks, I'd take it  ;)
Possible or maybe they are just showing who they really are?
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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #83 on: June 04, 2021, 07:36:42 PM »
Not sure who added the poll but you might want to check it. You can either apologize or continue with insults. @yuneeq

The poll is meaningless because it comes after the discussing and you don't know if people are answering honestly or trolling.

Possible or maybe they are just showing who they really are?

Anything is possible

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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #84 on: June 04, 2021, 07:41:18 PM »
The poll is meaningless because it comes after the discussing and you don't know if people are answering honestly or trolling.
You seem to be spinning everything in one members favor. Not sure if that is your intention but it is the way it is coming across.
Should we have a poll on my observation?  :)
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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #85 on: June 07, 2021, 12:38:12 PM »
The Jewish kid is far more likely to be attacked because he's Jewish than the Black kid is because he's black.
The Black kid is far more likely to be killed by another black kid than the Jewish kid is by another Jewish kid.
The Jewish kid is far more likely to be attacked by the black kid than the black kid is by the Jewish kid.
Couldn't have said it better.
Ever checked the ratio of blacks being killed by blacks and blacks being killed by whites? What about Jews being killed by Jews? (Hint: closely resembles the number of blacks being killed by Jews)
Sometimes I wonder how many blacks were murdered by white cops and how many blacks murdered others as a result of that?

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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #86 on: June 07, 2021, 12:44:06 PM »
Couldn't have said it better.
Ever checked the ratio of blacks being killed by blacks and blacks being killed by whites? What about Jews being killed by Jews? (Hint: closely resembles the number of blacks being killed by Jews)
Sometimes I wonder how many blacks were murdered by white cops and how many blacks murdered others as a result of that?

THIS deserves a visit from Chaim. What's your point? Who's arguing this? The statement was made that it's more dangerous to be Black in this country than Jewish. Fault or blame wasn't assigned. Nothing was said about who's hurting who or why. The statement is true, and it's a problem.
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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #87 on: June 07, 2021, 12:47:20 PM »
THIS deserves a visit from Chaim. What's your point? Who's arguing this? The statement was made that it's more dangerous to be Black in this country than Jewish. Fault or blame wasn't assigned. Nothing was said about who's hurting who or why. The statement is true, and it's a problem.
My apologies, I thought I was in the "Just Shmooze" thread, titled Everything is about me!  ;)

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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #88 on: June 07, 2021, 12:49:00 PM »
My apologies, I thought I was in the "Just Shmooze" thread, titled Everything is about me!  ;)

Touche
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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #89 on: June 07, 2021, 01:00:39 PM »
Couldn't have said it better.
Ever checked the ratio of blacks being killed by blacks and blacks being killed by whites? What about Jews being killed by Jews? (Hint: closely resembles the number of blacks being killed by Jews)
Sometimes I wonder how many blacks were murdered by white cops and how many blacks murdered others as a result of that?
What different does it make if a black innocent child is killed by another black, white or jew?
It is more dangerous for a black growing up in the US than any other minority. No other minority even comes close.
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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #90 on: June 07, 2021, 01:01:13 PM »
What different does it make if a black innocent child is killed by another black, white or jew?
It is more dangerous for a black growing up in the US than any other minority. No other minority even comes close.

You keep arguing a point no one is arguing

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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #91 on: June 07, 2021, 01:05:31 PM »
You keep arguing a point no one is arguing
Then why do they keep brining up blacks getting killed by blacks? What difference does it make who is doing the killing for the family of the dead child?

I know exactly why they keep bringing it up and I suspect you do also.
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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #92 on: June 07, 2021, 01:14:15 PM »
Then why do they keep brining up blacks getting killed by blacks? What difference does it make who is doing the killing for the family of the dead child?

I know exactly why they keep bringing it up and I suspect you do also.

Because you mixed things up.

Yuneeq started speaking about people being attacked *because* of their identity. Jews get attacked because they are Jews more than any other group.
But because he misstated one line about it "being more dangerous" for Jews, you started beating that drum.

Then Lurker, Yuneeq, myself, and WhyMe (and perhaps others) clearly stated what the claim really is. Those who have argued with you (I think it is just sguitarist) almost certainly don't realize you are speaking about overall danger while they are speaking about danger *for being Jewish*.

Ltttc was responding to WhyMe, not saying it is more dangerous for Jews.


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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #93 on: June 07, 2021, 02:21:35 PM »
Because you mixed things up.

Yuneeq started speaking about people being attacked *because* of their identity. Jews get attacked because they are Jews more than any other group.
But because he misstated one line about it "being more dangerous" for Jews, you started beating that drum.

Then Lurker, Yuneeq, myself, and WhyMe (and perhaps others) clearly stated what the claim really is. Those who have argued with you (I think it is just sguitarist) almost certainly don't realize you are speaking about overall danger while they are speaking about danger *for being Jewish*.

Ltttc was responding to WhyMe, not saying it is more dangerous for Jews.


The funniest (saddest?) part of all this is that the post he quoted to start this thread is one where @yuneeq makes it perfectly clear that he's talking about hate crimes, not deadly or dangerous in an absolute sense.

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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #94 on: June 07, 2021, 02:33:57 PM »
Because you mixed things up.
You mean like "me"? The poll proved you and others wrong. If you are not sure what someone meant just ask, don't assume.
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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #95 on: June 07, 2021, 02:45:09 PM »
You mean like "me"? The poll proved you and others wrong.

Lol, you seriously want to say that a DDF poll proves anything? I'm pretty sure a "Are you a pedophile" poll would get yes votes.

Quite frankly, despite numerous attempts, I wasn't shown a way, in simple English, to read the thread title as being about anyone other than yuneeq or Jews in general.

If you are not sure what someone meant just ask, don't assume.

You mean like how you keep speaking about it being more dangerous for blacks in general even though at least 4 posters have clarified the OP to be talking about hate crimes?

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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #96 on: June 07, 2021, 03:27:39 PM »
You mean like how you keep speaking about it being more dangerous for blacks in general even though at least 4 posters have clarified the OP to be talking about hate crimes?
I explained I was responding to his claim it is more dangerous for Jews than blacks. Yes I quoted the wrong post and explained way. You refuse to accept any explanation.

I will make this simple for the three points.
1) There are more hate crimes toward Jews.
2) It is more dangerous for blacks.
3) "me" in the title can be read different ways.
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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #97 on: June 07, 2021, 03:30:02 PM »
I explained I was responding to his claim it is more dangerous for Jews than blacks. Yes I quoted the wrong post and explained way. You refuse to accept any explanation.

I will make this simple for the three points.
1) There are more hate crimes toward Jews.
2) It is more dangerous for blacks.
3) "me" in the title can be read different ways.

Everyone agrees to 1 and 2.

3 - Explain how

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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #98 on: June 07, 2021, 03:33:30 PM »
3 - Explain how
I have been accused many times of making everything about "me". One can read the title that way. I can give other examples but it wouldn't matter.
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Re: Everything is about me!
« Reply #99 on: June 07, 2021, 03:39:31 PM »
I have been accused many times of making everything about "me". One can read the title that way. I can give other examples but it wouldn't matter.

It's not about examples. It's about the English language. There's no other way to read the title. You want to say it was poorly written or communicated because you're not always great with syntax? No problem. That's an issue that has come up before. But you cannot keep saying that there are other ways to read it, unless you can clearly show how.
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