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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2021, 03:04:57 PM »
https://www.shop.netcostmarket.com/search/Kreider?filter=all&catalogProduct=2119184

You will need someone to physically go to a store to see if it has a letter or not...
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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2021, 10:52:39 AM »
https://www.shop.netcostmarket.com/search/Kreider?filter=all&catalogProduct=2119184

You will need someone to physically go to a store to see if it has a letter or not...

Thanks but no results come up when I go to this link. It also asks me which location I want, and maybe it has to do with that, but idk which location you're seeing resluts at.

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2021, 10:57:07 AM »

I wonder if whichever source Golden Flow used to use for a CY buttermilk culture is no longer available.


https://cheesemaking.com/products/buttermilk-starter-culture-for-cheese-making
try making your own
they claim to have kosher certificate available upon request.


ETA: https://www.getculture.com/901.html
them too
« Last Edit: June 29, 2021, 11:32:21 AM by ushdadude »

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2021, 12:31:01 PM »
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2021, 12:36:09 PM »
Cholov Yisroel?


dunno I would contact them to see certification and to see if milk is even an ingredient.
and AYLOR if powdered milk needs to be CY

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2021, 12:37:03 PM »
and AYLOR if powdered milk needs to be CY
It is a daas yochid that t doesn't
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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2021, 01:04:31 PM »
Can we take a moment to appreciate the username of the OP? Really checks out.

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2021, 04:52:17 PM »

https://cheesemaking.com/products/buttermilk-starter-culture-for-cheese-making
try making your own
they claim to have kosher certificate available upon request.


ETA: https://www.getculture.com/901.html
them too

Thanks. From the Q&A section on the cheesemaking.com page:



It seems that site's product is OU and the getculture one is OK certified. Worth checking out the hashgacha, but my hunch is they're both officially Cholov Stam.


dunno I would contact them to see certification and to see if milk is even an ingredient.
and AYLOR if powdered milk needs to be CY

Both of those sites consider "MILK" to be an allergen in the product. It's likely that the culture is harvested from milk. Whether this is considered Cholov Stam is, as you said, something for LOR, I suppose.

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2021, 05:18:11 PM »

dunno I would contact them to see certification and to see if milk is even an ingredient.
and AYLOR if powdered milk needs to be CY
in all likelihood, milk is used in the culture. I'm not sure you could even use dry milk since you need live bacteria.

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2021, 06:54:37 PM »
I was just in a store that usually sells kreider farm milk bottles with a Hebrew date but the butterscotch milk did not have any Hebrew date so it seems that they do not produce CY butterscotch milk.
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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2023, 09:03:29 PM »
Fyi, according to the Star K who is the baal machshir of Kreiders, Kreiders brand is non cholov yisroel. Please see attached release by star k
 https://www.star-k.org/articles/wp-content/uploads/star-d-prod-guide.pdf

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2023, 09:13:27 PM »
Fyi, according to the Star K who is the baal machshir of Kreiders, Kreiders brand is non cholov yisroel. Please see attached release by star k
 https://www.star-k.org/articles/wp-content/uploads/star-d-prod-guide.pdf
Fwiu it not necessarily non CY, and may be due to being limited to how much can be marketed as CY or something like that.
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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2024, 08:58:30 PM »
Seasons in Lakewood now carries a line of milks from Bethel Creamery in NJ which are Cholov Yisroel. They have regular milk, chocolate milk, and buttermilk. They advertise as being from grass-fed cows, with a much higher protein level and much more milkfat.

I tried the chocolate milk, it's unbelievable. You have to first shake it to get all the cream from the top to mix back in, but I never tasted such fresh and delicious chocolate milk.

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2024, 09:42:14 PM »
Seasons in Lakewood now carries a line of milks from Bethel Creamery in NJ which are Cholov Yisroel. They have regular milk, chocolate milk, and buttermilk. They advertise as being from grass-fed cows, with a much higher protein level and much more milkfat.

I tried the chocolate milk, it's unbelievable. You have to first shake it to get all the cream from the top to mix back in, but I never tasted such fresh and delicious chocolate milk.

They have delicious yogurts too
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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2024, 09:59:06 PM »
They have delicious yogurts too
Thanks! Didn't know there was a whole thread on this.

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2024, 12:34:15 AM »
Seasons in Lakewood now carries a line of milks from Bethel Creamery in NJ which are Cholov Yisroel. They have regular milk, chocolate milk, and buttermilk. They advertise as being from grass-fed cows, with a much higher protein level and much more milkfat.

I tried the chocolate milk, it's unbelievable. You have to first shake it to get all the cream from the top to mix back in, but I never tasted such fresh and delicious chocolate milk.

Yea looks like buttermilk is a new line of theirs. Bought one thinking it's like heavy cream and was excited to use it in coffee, well it's more like liquid yogurt...

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2024, 01:02:30 AM »
so what is buttermilk and how do you eat/drink it?

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2024, 01:11:33 AM »
how do you eat/drink it?
Seems to be very popular in pancakes and waffles.

In the Goyish world they dip chicken cutlets into it, but obviously that is בשר וחלב.

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2024, 06:45:01 AM »
so what is buttermilk and how do you eat/drink it?
start whipping your cream and keep whipping until it's over whipped. At which point it will break. Keep going and you'll end up with butter . The remaining liquid is buttermilk

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Re: Cholov Yisroel Buttermilk?
« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2024, 11:09:33 PM »
Any shelf stable CY chocolate milk (like yoohoo)?