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Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« on: June 16, 2021, 10:39:33 AM »
I know a lady who had multiple miscarriages. Her doctor suggested she might have a blood clotting issue which was causing the miscarriages. She was sent to specialists for much testing, and was told she had an abnormality in her IGG and IGM levels. This was causing her blood to coagulate, and caused the blood clots. She went to top high-risk doctors, and her docs and hematologists advised her to use baby aspirin throughout her future pregnancies, and B"H she did have children afterwards.
Obviously, I'm not recommending anyone to make medical decisions based on what you are reading some maaseh on a blog. I'm just asking to those who know these things, why doesn't everyone who has high IGG levels (specifically, anyone who was vaxxed), should speak to their doctor about taking aspirin/blood thinner?
In Israel, after many pregnant woman had problems from the vaccination, they stopped recommending the vacc to pregnant ladies. Could it be that the heightened IGG level was causing blood clots, and this could be avoided by using aspirin?
There have been people who were not vaxxed, but recovered from covid, and had blood clots (a well known Talmid Chochom in Lkwd was niftar a couple months after recovering from covid). So hightened IGG levels can be from the recovery without taking the vaccination, but the IGG level in vaxxed people are way higher, and can potentially cause risks.

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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2021, 10:42:17 AM »

In Israel, after many pregnant woman had problems from the vaccination, they stopped recommending the vacc to pregnant ladies. Could it be that the heightened IGG level was causing blood clots, and this could be avoided by using aspirin?

...but the IGG level in vaxxed people are way higher, and can potentially cause risks.
Interesting theory, but do you have a source?

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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2021, 10:44:37 AM »
I know a lady who had multiple miscarriages. Her doctor suggested she might have a blood clotting issue which was causing the miscarriages. She was sent to specialists for much testing, and was told she had an abnormality in her IGG and IGM levels. This was causing her blood to coagulate, and caused the blood clots. She went to top high-risk doctors, and her docs and hematologists advised her to use baby aspirin throughout her future pregnancies, and B"H she did have children afterwards.
Obviously, I'm not recommending anyone to make medical decisions based on what you are reading some maaseh on a blog. I'm just asking to those who know these things, why doesn't everyone who has high IGG levels (specifically, anyone who was vaxxed), should speak to their doctor about taking aspirin/blood thinner?
In Israel, after many pregnant woman had problems from the vaccination, they stopped recommending the vacc to pregnant ladies. Could it be that the heightened IGG level was causing blood clots, and this could be avoided by using aspirin?
There have been people who were not vaxxed, but recovered from covid, and had blood clots (a well known Talmid Chochom in Lkwd was niftar a couple months after recovering from covid). So hightened IGG levels can be from the recovery without taking the vaccination, but the IGG level in vaxxed people are way higher, and can potentially cause risks.

Just to be clear, the woman you're talking about has something unusual going on medically that wasn't caused by and predates the COVID vaccine.

It's a slippery slope for you to try to string together inferences from her situation, combined with guidance about COVID vaccination to pregnant women (that I'm not sure you have the full picture there in the first place), to come to conclusions about what everyone who's vaccinated should do.

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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2021, 10:47:54 AM »
Interesting theory, but do you have a source?
The results from the lab bloodwork (Quest Diagnostics) said for both the IGG and IGM tests:
"Antibody to Cardiolipin is most commonly associated with cerebrovascular accident, myocardial infarction, deep vein thrombosis and idiopathic abortion. These features are reffered to as the Anti-Phospholipid syndrome, and may also be associated with Anti-Lupus Anticoagulant Antibodies"

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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2021, 10:48:36 AM »
In Israel, after many pregnant woman had problems from the vaccination, they stopped recommending the vacc to pregnant ladies.
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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2021, 10:49:58 AM »
The results from the lab bloodwork (Quest Diagnostics) said for both the IGG and IGM tests:
"Antibody to Cardiolipin is most commonly associated with cerebrovascular accident, myocardial infarction, deep vein thrombosis and idiopathic abortion. These features are reffered to as the Anti-Phospholipid syndrome, and may also be associated with Anti-Lupus Anticoagulant Antibodies"
What does that have to do with high IGG from the vaccine?

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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2021, 10:51:41 AM »
Just to be clear, the woman you're talking about has something unusual going on medically that wasn't caused by and predates the COVID vaccine.

It's a slippery slope for you to try to string together inferences from her situation, combined with guidance about COVID vaccination to pregnant women (that I'm not sure you have the full picture there in the first place), to come to conclusions about what everyone who's vaccinated should do.
Correct. This goes back a number of years ago. The abnormality in the IGG/IGM level caused her clots, which caused the pregnancies to fail.
I am not coming to any conclusions about what vaxxed people should do, I'm just asking why we don't hear talk about discussing with a doctor one is has hightened IGG level, and may be at risk for clotting, if they should use a blood thinner, or small dosage baby aspirin

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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2021, 10:54:31 AM »
Correct. This goes back a number of years ago. The abnormality in the IGG/IGM level caused her clots, which caused the pregnancies to fail.
I am not coming to any conclusions about what vaxxed people should do, I'm just asking why we don't hear talk about discussing with a doctor one is has hightened IGG level, and may be at risk for clotting, if they should use a blood thinner, or small dosage baby aspirin
Because it's not an issue for most people BH?

Do you have a source for Israel stopping to give pregnant women the vaccine? I never heard of that and I have a lot of family there. And a ton of pregnant women took it here in Lakewood. Besides those all over the world, obviously.

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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2021, 10:55:12 AM »
What does that have to do with high IGG from the vaccine?
I am not recommending anything. I'm asking (discussing), if we know that heightened levels of IGG can cause clotting, why is bood thinning not being discussed?

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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2021, 10:58:22 AM »
I am not recommending anything. I'm asking (discussing), if we know that heightened levels of IGG can cause clotting, why is bood thinning not being discussed?
I do not have a source.
I am basing that part of my comment, on a video clip that I saw of a doctor who was at Reb Chaim Kanievsky's house (a few months ago), asking him to promote taking vaccinations, and this top doctor said that women should not take it during certain months of the pregnancy (I don't remember the exact months).

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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2021, 11:08:26 AM »
I am not recommending anything. I'm asking (discussing), if we know that heightened levels of IGG can cause clotting, why is bood thinning not being discussed?

I'm not sure that the patient's high IGG levels are the same "high" IGG levels brought on by COVID vaccination. Could be two completely different scales. I'm also not sure that high IGG is what caused clotting in the patient in question, it's possible (I'm not saying that's the case) that high IGG was indicative of an autoimmune or other underlying condition that was causing both the high IGG levels and the clotting.

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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2021, 11:34:56 AM »
What does this have to do with clotting?

You just spreading FUD for fun?
You're right, that article doesn't have anything to do with clotting, but this one does:
https://labblog.uofmhealth.org/lab-report/new-cause-of-covid-19-blood-clots-identified

Hey. I'm not pushing anything other than conversation of why aspirin is not being talked about?

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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2021, 11:35:14 AM »
I do not have a source.
I am basing that part of my comment, on a video clip that I saw of a doctor who was at Reb Chaim Kanievsky's house (a few months ago), asking him to promote taking vaccinations, and this top doctor said that women should not take it during certain months of the pregnancy (I don't remember the exact months).
Seriously????

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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2021, 11:35:59 AM »
You're right, that article doesn't have anything to do with clotting, but this one does:
https://labblog.uofmhealth.org/lab-report/new-cause-of-covid-19-blood-clots-identified

Hey. I'm not pushing anything other than conversation of why aspirin is not being talked about?
Has nothing to do with the vaccine.

It's not talked about because it's not an issue.

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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2021, 10:58:59 AM »
[Citation needed]
JJ asked for source (pregnancy problems related to covid/vacc), so here it is. I was just shown this article by an "anti-vaxxer", so I will take it with a grain of salt.
My original question had nothing to do with pro/anti vaccination. I personally know 2 Yidden who had covid and recovered, both did not get the shot, and later they had blood clots. 1 was nebach niftar, and the other had a stroke r"l.
The question is if pregnant women with elevated antibodies, which medical experts do know that for some reason those antibodies are affecting the blood coagulation and might cause clotting, should they be told to discuss with their doctor the use of aspirin while pregnant to avoid miscarriages.

https://whiskeytangotexas.com/2021/06/30/huge-red-flag-medical-researchers-caught-burying-data-proving-82-miscarriage-rate-in-jabbed-expectant-mothers/

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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2021, 11:08:18 AM »
JJ asked for source (pregnancy problems related to covid/vacc), so here it is. I was just shown this article by an "anti-vaxxer", so I will take it with a grain of salt.
My original question had nothing to do with pro/anti vaccination. I personally know 2 Yidden who had covid and recovered, both did not get the shot, and later they had blood clots. 1 was nebach niftar, and the other had a stroke r"l.
The question is if pregnant women with elevated antibodies, which medical experts do know that for some reason those antibodies are affecting the blood coagulation and might cause clotting, should they be told to discuss with their doctor the use of aspirin while pregnant to avoid miscarriages.

https://whiskeytangotexas.com/2021/06/30/huge-red-flag-medical-researchers-caught-burying-data-proving-82-miscarriage-rate-in-jabbed-expectant-mothers/

Read the article thoroughly. They say that 104 abortions should be counted as lost pregnancies due to the vaccine. I'm very confused.
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Re: Should vaccinated people take aspirin (blood thinner)?
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2021, 12:28:30 PM »
Read the article thoroughly. They say that 104 abortions should be counted as lost pregnancies due to the vaccine. I'm very confused.
Well we all know that this is what the chip told them to do
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