+1. If there is a significantly higher risk to a certain age group, it would be helpful to narrow down the vaccination stats to that demographic instead of the 300m overall.
300m shots could easily mean 10m or 15m people 30 and under.
The graph in the article shows cases for each age, and it apparently is seen with every age group, just really high in age 16-24 or so. This comes from a CDC presentation that just finished, so I imagine reporters are researching and writing articles on this right now.
After covid being around for more then a year I would say we can all agree that for children and teens the virus is not much more then a regular flu, so just to avoid covid I wouldn't vaccinate since it is yet to be clear the short term affects never mind the long term side affects, I will not let my child be part the human trial,to avoid being a carrier not to infect older adults? they should all be vaccinated by now.
The graph looks a bit like this one, showing adrenal androgenic hormones that zoom up around age 16-24 in men, then start to decrease. Coincidence? Wasn't there a postulated role of testosterone early on, when men were seen as most vulnerable? Can't remember where that went.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenarche
it's good to be a Lubavitcher
And to avoid long-term COVID problems that many kids and adults suffer from.
Do you know of any KIDS OR YOUNG TEENS that had COVID and are still suffering? I have kids in 3 mosdos all of them with 3-400 kids I am not aware of any case, I have friends that have kids and teen agers in lots of different mosdos I've yet to hear a single case of someone suffering long term.Though if am wrong that might indeed be a reason to vaccinate.
I'd probably still vaccinate a 16+ year old (not a 12-16), but the fact that they are not pausing vaccines for <30 year old males after pausing J&J for much less stinks. I'm starting to think I'm a conspiracy theorist.
Do you remember any problems with yomim noraim tfilos operating normally? With weddings operating normally? Where DO you remember problems?
Sheesh, I wasn't on the moon at the time, so I witnessed people becoming sick and the ones that passed away. But we're discussing kids and teens here, and I have no recollection of this happening with kids last year due to camp. Do you?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/23/cdc-reports-more-than-1200-cases-of-rare-heart-inflammation-after-covid-vaccine-shots.html"There have been more than 1,200 cases of a myocarditis or pericarditis mostly in people 30 and under who received Pfizer’s or Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine, according to CDC data.Roughly 300 million of the shots had been administered as of June 11, the agency said.For both vaccines combined, there were 12.6 heart inflammation cases per million doses."
Quotes in a signature is annoying, as it comes across as an independent post.
Then again, COVID-19 appears to cause myocarditis in 2.3% of young males who are infected, leading to tens of thousands of deaths worldwide (possibly accounting for 7% of all COVID-19 related deaths).
“Only an exceedingly small number of people will experience it after vaccination,” HHS said. “Importantly, for the young people who do, most cases are mild, and individuals recover often on their own or with minimal treatment. In addition, we know that myocarditis and pericarditis are much more common if you get COVID-19, and the risks to the heart from COVID-19 infection can be more severe.”
I think he was just pointing out that things appearing to be business-as-usual means nothing. Why would you have noticed anything last year at camps if they didn't react to anyone getting sick? Check out the last few pages of last year's camp thread. Things happened, and BH nothing too crazy was reported (in terms of hospitalizations or r"l deaths). That doesn't mean camp is not a risk for infection.
Anecdotally, it seems that the frum communities are largely not vaccinating 12-16 year olds.
Overnight camp was a circumstance I didn't believe allowed for waiting, though.
The answer is that nothing in people's recollections about last years overnight camps pushes them to vaccinate teens and kids this year.
Do you think the cheshbon is that camp is low risk, or that Covid doesn't matter to kids and teens anyway, so the entire vax conversation is a non-starter?
Personally I'd think that if there is one place where spread is inevitable it is overnight summer camps. But people did it anyway, and they weren't too concerned for their kids contracting the virus, and no-one regretted sending away their kids afterwards. That's why you didn't see people rushing to get their kids vaccinated before camp this year.
...I would say we can all agree that for children and teens the virus is not much more then a regular flu, so just to avoid covid... I will not let my child be part the human trial
IOW, this is the prevailing sentiment:
