Author Topic: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL (Read 117608 times)

UKinNYS · « **Reply #580 on:** July 01, 2021, 02:29:49 PM »

This is now being discussed
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/champlain-towers-south-surfside-demolished-12478814

Quote from: jj1000 on July 01, 2021, 09:41:49 AM

Prevents collapse while workers are there, a collapse with 200+ workers there would be another catastrophic event, and collapse on top of the existing pile were survivors may be.
Whatever, it's silly talk just musing.

ari3 · « **Reply #581 on:** July 01, 2021, 02:39:57 PM »

Quote from: Lurker on July 01, 2021, 10:23:08 AM

What's the downside of false hope?

Putting the rescuers in danger.

Every rescue worker going in is putting his life in danger. to a certain degree. They needed to stop work because the structure is unstable.
They have not pulled anyone alive since the first day. There has not been any sign of life in almost a week. Even if someone ended up in a void without getting crushed on the way they would have had to contend with fire smoke and dust, and a lack of food and water.
A false or highly implausible sense of hope will drive rescuers to take unwarranted risks with potentially deadly results.

Lurker · « **Reply #582 on:** July 01, 2021, 02:52:14 PM »

Quote from: ari3 on July 01, 2021, 02:39:57 PM

Putting the rescuers in danger.

Every rescue worker going in is putting his life in danger. to a certain degree. They needed to stop work because the structure is unstable.
They have not pulled anyone alive since the first day. There has not been any sign of life in almost a week. Even if someone ended up in a void without getting crushed on the way they would have had to contend with fire smoke and dust, and a lack of food and water.
A false or highly implausible sense of hope will drive rescuers to take unwarranted risks with potentially deadly results.

I don't think the hope being given to the families (or the public) is factored into the risk calculations that the experts are making regarding how to progress.

LNS · « **Reply #583 on:** July 01, 2021, 03:23:38 PM »

no family member of the missing whether they believe their family member's are still alive or not wants that other part of the building collapsing on top of the rubble already there and definitely not on top of rescue workers

hope or no hope makes no difference
no one knows anything for sure so how can anyone say they are being given false hope

UKinNYS · « **Reply #584 on:** July 01, 2021, 06:04:01 PM »

Biden left. work restarted. coincidence?

UKinNYS · « **Reply #585 on:** July 01, 2021, 06:16:50 PM »

https://twitter.com/MiamiDadeFire/status/1410720762244313088
https://twitter.com/YossiGestetner/status/1410624799907405826

TimT · « **Reply #586 on:** July 01, 2021, 06:23:25 PM »

Quote from: UKinNYS on July 01, 2021, 06:04:01 PM

Biden left. work restarted. coincidence?

I would like to believe so.

Euclid · « **Reply #587 on:** July 01, 2021, 06:27:08 PM »

I wonder which "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" theory is going to be the popular one.

TimT · « **Reply #588 on:** July 01, 2021, 06:36:02 PM »

https://twitter.com/hasidic_1/status/1410725263537627136

Yehuda57 · « **Reply #589 on:** July 01, 2021, 06:37:34 PM »

If Biden didn't show up the same characters would be screaming that he doesn't care about one of the worst building collapses in US history because many of the victims are Jewish, or some other trash.

TimT · « **Reply #590 on:** July 01, 2021, 06:43:37 PM »

“Surfside mayor Burkett said he did not know why officials decided to restart search efforts at the Champlain Towers South condominium after suspending them early Thursday, The Associated Press reported. Burkett’s observations were echoed by Miami-Dade County Mayor Daniella Levine Cava.“

Okay

yelped · « **Reply #591 on:** July 01, 2021, 07:36:02 PM »

Let's keep the garbage out of this thread please.

TimT · « **Reply #592 on:** July 01, 2021, 07:45:34 PM »

https://vinnews.com/2021/07/01/mystery-young-jewish-girl-mentioned-by-surfside-mayor-at-collapse-site-meets-with-biden/

avromie7 · « **Reply #593 on:** July 01, 2021, 08:06:55 PM »

Quote from: Yehuda57 on July 01, 2021, 06:37:34 PM

If Biden didn't show up the same characters would be screaming that he doesn't care about one of the worst building collapses in US history because many of the victims are Jewish, or some other trash.

I would've been more than fine with him staying at a distance at least until it's formally changed to a recovery mission. Color me skeptical, but I don't think it's a coincidence that they stopped working exactly while Biden was there.

M218 · « **Reply #594 on:** July 02, 2021, 12:28:44 AM »

Quote from: yelped on July 01, 2021, 07:36:02 PM

Let's keep the garbage out of this thread please.

with you!
#keep it clean!

TimT · « **Reply #595 on:** July 02, 2021, 08:27:32 AM »

Is this the norm with these condos ?
https://twitter.com/The_Justice7/status/1410935662233141263

avromie7 · « **Reply #596 on:** July 02, 2021, 09:22:24 AM »

Quote from: TimT on July 02, 2021, 08:27:32 AM

Is this the norm with these condos ?
https://twitter.com/The_Justice7/status/1410935662233141263

It looks like they're in middle of repairs.

TimT · « **Reply #597 on:** July 02, 2021, 09:27:12 AM »

Quote from: avromie7 on July 02, 2021, 09:22:24 AM

It looks like they're in middle of repairs.

Similar to Surfside. These repairs can take ages.

zale · « **Reply #598 on:** July 02, 2021, 09:35:11 AM »

Quote from: TimT on July 02, 2021, 08:27:32 AM

Is this the norm with these condos ?
https://twitter.com/The_Justice7/status/1410935662233141263

To me, this proves that water damage and cracked concrete alone don’t bring down buildings. There are buildings everywhere with these problems.

The odds of this bringing down a building are probably the same odds as getting hit by lightning twice.

Yehuda57 · « **Reply #599 on:** July 02, 2021, 10:44:59 AM »

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/armin-rosen-idf-surfside

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