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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #82 on: June 25, 2021, 08:20:51 AM »

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #83 on: June 25, 2021, 08:32:52 AM »
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Acc. to Mayor; Total 159 MISSING!
4 confirmed dead/recovered from ruble - identification underway.
still operating as search & rescue, not only recovery still hope. sounds heard throughout the night. sounds were NOT tapping rather moving debris/ shifting, not for sure but could be sign of life, dogs being used.
searching from below with light machinery & from above with heavy machinery.
Press conference now https://miami.cbslocal.com/live/
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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #84 on: June 25, 2021, 08:37:35 AM »
So the heavy machinery is finally being brought in. About time

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #85 on: June 25, 2021, 08:40:13 AM »
came in late last night
Also they're coordinating with structural engineers on site.
So the heavy machinery is finally being brought in. About time

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #86 on: June 25, 2021, 08:53:28 AM »
Full list of names to pray for via WhatsApp & https://www.local10.com/news/local/2021/06/24/surfside-collapse-loved-ones-name-those-they-say-are-missing/:

We read ALL the names and pray for a miracle for each of these souls

Here is the latest information of those who are missing.
Compiled by local10.com

Nicole and Ruslan Manashirov: A friend said they had just moved to unit 703 about two months ago and Ruslan did not report to work on Thursday.

Estelle Hedaya: She was a resident of apartment 604. Those who know her say she is very loved by friends in the Jewish community.

Theresa, Angela and Julio Cesar Velasquez: Theresa Velasquez, 36, was visiting her parents, Angela and Julio Velasquez, who were residents of apartment 304.

Bhavna, Aishani and Vishal Patel: The Patel family lived in unit 311.

Alfredo and Lorenzo Leone: Alfredo Leone and his son Lorenzo Leone were residents of unit 512. Alfredo’s wife was not home.

Judy Spiegel, Apt. 603: Judy Spiegel’s daughter, Rachel, said she spoke to her 65-year-old mother around 9:30 p.m. Wednesday. She hasn’t heard from her since.

Simon Segal: The niece of Simon Segal sent in a photo of her uncle who lives on the 11th floor of Champlain Towers and she says the family is hoping sending his photo will help find him.

Edgar Gonzalez: According to family members, Gonzalez’s wife and daughter are hospitalized at Jackson Memorial’s Ryder Trauma Center, but they are not able to get in touch with the 45-year-old father. All three were in the same unit when the collapse took place. It is unclear how the family was separated.

Members of The Shul in Surfside: Rabbi Sholom D. Lipskar of The Shul in Surfside says several members of synagogue are missing. “There are very few words that could give anybody consolation because you are dealing with an unimaginable, horrific tragedy that struck in the middle of the night,” Lipskar said.

Nancy Kress Levin
Jay Kleinman
Frankie Kleinman
Arie Leib
Yisroel Tzvi Yosef
Tzvi Doniel
Couple who adopted daughter staying in Surfside condo unaccounted for

Fabian, Andres and newly adopted daughter, Sophia, Apt. 803: An apartment owner from Argentina told Local 10′s Glenna Milberg that she had friends staying inside her unit who had just adopted a daughter. That owner has not been able to contact the family, she said.

Deborah Berezdivin and Ilan Naibryf: Deborah Berezdivin was listed as one of the members of Shul of Bal Harbour missing. Family members said Ilan Naibryf, her boyfriend, is also missing.

Cassandra Stratton: A distraught woman told Local 10 News that her daughter’s friend is unaccounted for and that the missing resident’s husband is currently flying in from Colorado.

Ray and Mercy Urgelles, Apt. 211: Mercy Urgelles is the director of pharmacy at Coral Gables Hospital, according to friends. She and her husband Ray both remain unaccounted for.

Brad Cohen: Soraya Cohen said her husband was on the 11th floor when the building collapsed. She has hopes that the doctor will be found alive after staying behind to help people.

Magally Delgado: Magally Ramsey describes her mother, Magally Delgado, as a strong 80-year-old who was living in an apartment on the ninth floor. Her daughter immediately drove to Surfside from Orlando when she found out it was the building her mother lived in that had collapsed.

Linda March, Ph. 4: Local 10 broadcast video of the exposed area of the Surfside condo collapse. That video showed white bunk beds and a desk chair. Moments later, Local 10 News reporter Glenna Milberg was contacted and was told that the penthouse apartment belongs to Linda March, an attorney who moved back from New York to Surfside. The friend said they have been texting March, but they have gone unanswered.

Penthouse No. 4 reportedly belongs to attorney Linda March. Friends say they have texted her telephone but have not been able to get any response.

Michael Altman, Apt. 1101: His family and loved ones are looking for him. They have checked hospitals and filed a missing persons report. Any assistance in locating him would be greatly appreciated, according to a statement from the family.

Alfredo and Lorenzo Leone, Apt. 512: A close friend of the Leone family said the wife of Alfredo and mother of Lorenzo was not home at the time of the collapse, but that the other two are missing.

Oresme Gil Guerra and Betty Guerra: According to friends, the couple reside on the 9th floor, but they have not been heard from since the building collapse.

The Guara family: An entire family of four is missing. A friend notified Local 10.com to say that Marcus and Ana Guara and their two children, Lucia and Emma, lived in the condo building and are not accounted for.

Leon Oliwkowicz and Christina Elvira Oliwkowicz, Apt. 704: The daughter of the Oliwkowicz couple contacted Local10.com to say that she has not heard from her 79-year-old father and 74-year-old mother who lived in the Champlain Towers.

Graciella Cattarossi and her daughter, Estella: A friend wrote to Local 10 and sent a photo of Gabriella Cattarossi and daughter, Estella, who are missing after the Surfside building collapse. The friend said Cattarossi’s elderly parents are also missing.

Luis Andres Bermudez and Ana Ortiz: Bermudez’s cousin contacted Local 10 to say he has muscular dystrophy and can’t walk.

Nicole and Ruslan Manashirov, Apt. 703: Friends say the couple moved to Apt. 703 of Champlain Tower South two months ago after they were married. They said Ruslan did not show up to work on Thursday and no one has been able to reach either of them.

Julio Cesar Velasquez, Angela Maria Velasquez, and Theresa Velasquez, Apt. 304: A friend of Theresa Velasquez, 36, wrote to Local 10 to say that she and her parents, Julio Cesar Velasquez, 67, and Angela Maria Velasquez, 60, lived in Champlain Towers South in Apartment 304 and have not been heard from since the collapse.

Family members, friends, shared photos with Local 10 of people that they say remain unaccounted for:

Ricky and Maituca Rovirosa

Myriam Caspi Notkin and Arnie Notkin

Maria Bonnefoy and Claudio Bonnefoy

Nicole Langesfeld and Luis Sadovnic

Juan Alberto Mora and Ana Mora

Vishal, Bhavna and Aishani Patel

Originally from Venezuela. In their 20s.
Luis Sadovnic
Nicole Langesfeld
Moises Rodan
Andres Levine

Citizens of four foreign countries: There are currently citizens of at least four foreign countries — Uruguay, Venezuela, Argentina, and Paraguay — unaccounted for in the Surfside building collapse including Paraguayan nationals. The Foreign Ministry of Paraguay reports 6 Paraguayan nationals are missing in the collapse. They named 3 individuals: Luis Pettengill, Sophia López-Moreira, and Lady Luna Villalba and there were 3 unidentified minors.

For Hebrew names, see below:
Arie Leib ben Ita
Arnie Notkin
Brad Cohen
Chaim ben Sara
Deborah bat Haia
Devorah bat Clara
Esther bat Linda
Franky ben Nancy
Gabriela bat Sarah
Ilan ben Avraham
Ilan ben Kalman
Ilan Naybryf
Ita bat Miriam
Jay ben Nancy
Leibl ben Feigue Rivka
Leib ben Shoshana
Lein ben Ilana
Linda March
Malka bat Sarah Rochel
Mikael ben Hans
Miriam bat Sara
Myriam Notkin
Moshe ben Shoshana
Moshe ben Toba
Nancy bat Sofia
Nicole bat Andrea
Ruth bat Sarah
Sarah bat Ida
Tzvi Doniel ben Yehudis
Yaakov Reuven Hacohen ben Devorah
Yehuda Arie ben Feiga Rivka
Yehudit bat Devora
Yisroel Tzvi Yosef ben Toiba
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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #87 on: June 25, 2021, 10:25:58 AM »
don't mean to be insensitive, but do 100% of the donation go towards victims? after hearing crazy percentages by other stories I am cautious.

thanks

The Shul was just announced by Gov DeSantis as one of 2 state supported organizations for relief efforts. He gave their website for donations.
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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2021, 11:35:45 AM »


Conspiracy theory?

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #89 on: June 25, 2021, 11:38:04 AM »


Conspiracy theory?
Based on the titles of the other videos on that channel, I'm going to go out on a limb and say: yes.

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #90 on: June 25, 2021, 11:40:27 AM »


Conspiracy theory?
See here
The building did have electric that was getting ripped apart.

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #92 on: June 25, 2021, 12:10:02 PM »
Conspiracy theory?
Utter stupidity. First of all, you don't set charges in the upper stories of a building for controlled demo. You set charges at the base and let it collapse in on itself. And second of all, the 'flashes' he points out are almost certainly lights that were already on (or, horrifyingly, someone in section that collapsed a few seconds in turning on their light because they were startled by the noise/movement) going out due to electricity flow stopping. Even a small charge creates a dust cloud pretty immediately - it's not that.

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #93 on: June 25, 2021, 12:27:33 PM »
USA TODAY: Collapsed Miami condo had been sinking into Earth as early as the 1990s, researchers say.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2021/06/24/building-collapse-miami-structure-had-been-sinking-into-earth/7778631002/ 
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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #94 on: June 25, 2021, 12:31:50 PM »
https://forward.com/news/471974/they-need-a-miracle-aid-pours-in-for-jewish-victims-of-surfside-florida/

He said one family in his congregation had felt the building trembling moments before it collapsed, and escaped the crumbling section on a narrow ledge.
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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #95 on: June 25, 2021, 12:39:02 PM »
The dearth of updates is torturous.
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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #96 on: June 25, 2021, 12:57:27 PM »
The dearth of updates is torturous.
That will now change as they’re seriously at work now. They’re finally manually removing debris as well as heavy machinery there. Unfortunately yesterday was wasted away.

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #97 on: June 25, 2021, 01:03:52 PM »
Is there any live link to see them working?

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Is there any live link to see them working?

There better not be... some things are better off unseen.
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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #99 on: June 25, 2021, 01:43:56 PM »
https://twitter.com/KolHaolam/status/1408479205659185159

For those without access, it's a video of a FD Lieutenant on scene saying they're trying to save a lady, they can hear her behind the walls.
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