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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #700 on: July 07, 2021, 10:36:49 AM »
search & rescue vs search & recovery.
I think something to this extent is the case. They are likely being more aggressive in the search, which wasn't as conducive to saving people but more conducive to finding people.
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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #701 on: July 07, 2021, 10:39:17 AM »
search & rescue vs search & recovery.

did they officially make that switch?

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #702 on: July 07, 2021, 10:40:04 AM »
did they officially make that switch?
I don't think any of the officials are saying that. But that doesn't mean their internal strategies haven't changed.
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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #703 on: July 07, 2021, 10:46:38 AM »
did they officially make that switch?

Regardless of what the official terminology is, they are well past the point where proceeding slower with more caution is more valuable the time it would cost.
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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #704 on: July 07, 2021, 11:01:28 AM »
Regardless of what the official terminology is, they are well past the point where proceeding slower with more caution is more valuable the time it would cost.

I'm sure it makes a difference to the families and i believe it has to do with the fact that there is no longer a danger of another building coming down on anyone vs time

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #705 on: July 07, 2021, 11:03:21 AM »
did they officially make that switch?

I would think demolishing the building was as clear a sign as any

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #706 on: July 07, 2021, 11:13:25 AM »
demolishing the building was as clear a sign as any
This. As well as the heavy lifting (which they kept saying could destroy voids).
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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #707 on: July 07, 2021, 11:18:24 AM »
I would think demolishing the building was as clear a sign as any

i don't know how much of a choice they had
they couldn't leave there and continue work at that pace for to much longer
and lets not forget that fact that there was a storm coming at them

yes all those things can indicate the above but I'm just wondering if they are actually reporting that

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #708 on: July 07, 2021, 11:19:51 AM »
i don't know how much of a choice they had
they couldn't leave there and continue work at that pace for to much longer
and lets not forget that fact that there was a storm coming at them

yes all those things can indicate the above but I'm just wondering if they are actually reporting that
They haven’t officially announced it yet.

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #709 on: July 07, 2021, 11:27:56 AM »
They haven’t officially announced it yet.

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #712 on: July 07, 2021, 11:42:00 AM »
Is this a recent pic ?

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #713 on: July 07, 2021, 11:42:05 AM »

not sure why this hits home more but very sad

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #714 on: July 07, 2021, 11:48:02 AM »
not sure why this hits home more but very sad

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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #716 on: July 07, 2021, 12:14:35 PM »

Looks like Minchas Chinuch and some artscroll shas.
Horrible joke, but now you see how good artscroll binding is.
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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #717 on: July 07, 2021, 12:15:19 PM »
Looks like Minchas Chinuch and some artscroll shas.
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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #718 on: July 07, 2021, 12:21:56 PM »
did they officially make that switch?
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Re: Building Collapses in Surfside, FL, People Still Missing
« Reply #719 on: July 07, 2021, 02:41:50 PM »