4 Collapses In 2 Months, Where Do We Go From Here?

[Dan]

Progressive crowd collapse in Meron
Bleacher collapse in Karlin-Stolin
Cable car collapse in Italy
Building collapse in Surfside

All with multiple Jewish victims.

All this after the pandemic.
What's the lesson here? Is this Gd's way of reminding us to stop being so comfortable and complacent in this galus?
Because this is getting brutal already 

[yesitsme]

[Yehudaa]

It's crazy that of the many millions of buildings in the country, the one building that collapsed was one that had a very significant jewish (and frum) population.

I have no idea what the message is, but I think it's glaringly obvious that Hashem is telling us something here.

[AsherO]

Progressive crowd collapse in Meron
Bleacher collapse in Karlin-Stolin
Cable car collapse in Italy
Building collapse in Surfside

All with multiple Jewish victims.

All this after the pandemic.
What's the lesson here? Is this Gd's way of reminding us to stop being so comfortable and complacent in this galus?
Because this is getting brutal already 

Appropriate timing for 17th of Tammuz:

אֲבָל אִם לֹא יִזְעֲקוּ וְלֹא יָרִיעוּ אֶלָּא יֹאמְרוּ דָּבָר זֶה מִמִּנְהַג הָעוֹלָם אֵרַע לָנוּ וְצָרָה זוֹ נִקְרָה נִקְרֵית. הֲרֵי זוֹ דֶּרֶךְ אַכְזָרִיּוּת וְגוֹרֶמֶת לָהֶם לְהִדַּבֵּק בְּמַעֲשֵׂיהֶם הָרָעִים...

[Something Fishy]

CMIIW, but since the Holocaust there has not been such a mass tragedy as Meron (in sheer numbers, and outside of wars of course). The thought that Surfside may trump Meron is terrifying.

[aygart]

The place I would start is with chiyuvei skila and items connected to them.

[tov hashem]

The place I would start is with chiyuvei skila and items connected to them.

more like chenek

[aygart]

more like chenek

I understand where you are coming from but don't see it that way

[EliJelly]

more like chenek

For Covid and Meron for sure. But chenek is the default miseh for all chiyuvei miseh unless specified otherwise.

[EliJelly]

CMIIW, but since the Holocaust there has not been such a mass tragedy as Meron (in sheer numbers, and outside of wars of course). The thought that Surfside may trump Meron is terrifying.

Are there more than 45 yidden unaccounted for??

[shmoe joe]

I think everyone deep down knows what he has todo תשובה for

[EliJelly]

I think everyone deep down knows what he has todo תשובה for

Reb Yisrol Dovid Schlezinger said this past shabbos that everyone wants to hear now a נבואה on what we collectively need to improve, as if each and every one of us don't know the areas we as individuals fail in avodas hashem and need improvement, לב יודע מרת נפשו.

[AsherO]

I think everyone deep down knows what he has todo תשובה for

That’s personally. There are also areas we could improve collectively, it doesn’t have to be one or the other.

[YitzyS]

Not a reason just a powerful insight, told over by a Lakewood rov this Shabbos:

By default, everything should just collapse. But Hashem is constantly holding up the world, 24/7. Now we see what happens when Hashem leaves go for one second.

[cmey]

The place I would start is with chiyuvei skila and items connected to them.

more like chenek

Definitely above my pay grade. But it was likely the pool that caused it so if you are looking for messages for heaven maybe that’s the place to start.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-beach/article252396233.html

[yakov116]

Now we see what happens when Hashem leaves go for one second.

He never let go!

Definitely above my pay grade. But it was likely the pool that caused it so if you are looking for messages for heaven maybe that’s the place to start.

Why do we always need to know the "Reason why it happened" in order to start doing teshuvah?

[AsherO]

Not a reason just a powerful insight, told over by a Lakewood rov this Shabbos:

By default, everything should just collapse. But Hashem is constantly holding up the world, 24/7. Now we see what happens when Hashem leaves go for one second.

Famous תורת הבעש״ט on the possuk לעולם ה’ דברך נצב בשמים, apparently sourced in מדרש תילים.

[aygart]

He never let go!

Why do we always need to know the "Reason why it happened" in order to start doing teshuvah?

I don't see anyone talking about a "reason it happened" but it is very well sourced that we should use how something happened to point us to more specific items to do tshuva for.

[dovy2]

Not a reason just a powerful insight, told over by a Lakewood rov this Shabbos:

By default, everything should just collapse. But Hashem is constantly holding up the world, 24/7. Now we see what happens when Hashem leaves go for one second.

Ch"v. A rov said this?!!

[jj1000]

Progressive crowd collapse in Meron
Bleacher collapse in Karlin-Stolin
Cable car collapse in Italy
Building collapse in Surfside

All with multiple Jewish victims.

All this after the pandemic.
What's the lesson here? Is this Gd's way of reminding us to stop being so comfortable and complacent in this galus?
Because this is getting brutal already