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Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« on: July 01, 2021, 10:22:52 AM »
No need to go OTD, just stop keeping CY. Though some would tell you if you don’t keep CY you aren’t frum :)
If a Lubavitcher stops keeping CY or takes off his beard, there's not much hope left.
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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2021, 10:24:38 AM »
If a Lubavitcher stops keeping CY or takes off his beard, there's not much hope left.

Respectfully disagree. That may be one of the most non-Lubavitch things you could say.
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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2021, 10:30:53 AM »
If a Lubavitcher stops keeping CY or takes off his beard, there's not much hope left.
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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2021, 10:35:13 AM »
Respectfully disagree. That may be one of the most non-Lubavitch things you could say.
I don't mean no hope as in they can't come back, as many do. But from the yeshiva friends I've seen, once those go, OTD quickly follows. It indicates a crisis of faith.
We had a similar discussion on DDF when Matisyahu shaved his beard on whether he would go full OTD.
Granted, all anecdotal.
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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2021, 10:37:38 AM »
I don't mean no hope as in they can't come back, as many do. But from the yeshiva friends I've seen, once those go, OTD quickly follows. It indicates a crisis of faith.
We had a similar discussion on DDF when Matisyahu shaved his beard on whether he would go full OTD.
Granted, all anecdotal.

I think this may have been true at one point, but a quick look at parents dropping the kids off at mainstream Lubavitch schools says it's just not true anymore.
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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2021, 10:41:44 AM »
I think this may have been true at one point, but a quick look at parents dropping the kids off at mainstream Lubavitch schools says it's just not true anymore.
I'm not up to date I guess, been a long time since I was in yeshiva or any Lubavitch school for that matter.
Are they different everywhere or just in SoFlo/SoCal?
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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2021, 10:43:06 AM »
I'm not up to date I guess, been a long time since I was in yeshiva or any Lubavitch school for that matter.
Are they different everywhere or just in SoFlo/SoCal?

Look at pics from the Chabad websites. It's definitely not just a CA/FL thing.
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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2021, 10:48:43 AM »
Look at pics from the Chabad websites. It's definitely not just a CA/FL thing.
Don't go to those either. I guess I'm just out of touch.

I've long said there ought to be a Kinnus Anash to stay in touch and strengthen hiskashrus, but Chabad cares about shluchim and outreach more than inreach.

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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2021, 10:52:02 AM »
Lubavitch membership was decreased by 65% after new membership terms were established by hierarchical authorities.

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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2021, 10:54:25 AM »
Don't recall anything else from the box being defective, but it's certainly possible.
Either way, complaining about a mislabeling on an item you received for free in a closed box without even seeing what was there before you already had it is very much the opposite of OTD.
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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2021, 10:55:15 AM »
Are you ignoring the true (my) definition?
We need to add this one to the archive.
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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2021, 10:55:20 AM »
Don't go to those either. I guess I'm just out of touch.

I've long said there ought to be a Kinnus Anash to stay in touch and strengthen hiskashrus, but Chabad cares about shluchim and outreach more than inreach.

It feels wrong and ironic to be saying this to you of all people, but you need to get out (or in?) more.
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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2021, 10:55:54 AM »
Don't go to those either. I guess I'm just out of touch.

I've long said there ought to be a Kinnus Anash to stay in touch and strengthen hiskashrus, but Chabad cares about shluchim and outreach more than inreach.

Maybe offer to be the guest speaker?

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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2021, 10:58:57 AM »
It feels wrong and ironic to be saying this to you of all people, but you need to get out (or in?) more.
I'm an introvert by nature, vacation in Svalbard and Antarctica, and spend my day working from home.
So..nothing ironic about that at all :D
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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2021, 11:00:16 AM »
Don't go to those either. I guess I'm just out of touch.

I've long said there ought to be a Kinnus Anash to stay in touch and strengthen hiskashrus, but Chabad cares about shluchim and outreach more than inreach.
I think they learned that from the Rebbe himself, go to the Ohel on an average Thursday night you will see tons of Chassidishe guys ask anyone his story if he was ever helped he will give you a full run down. Ask the same from a Lubavitcher......

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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2021, 11:01:32 AM »
Maybe offer to be the guest speaker?
I mentioned a Kinus Anash to some of the powers that be when I gave a seminar at the Kinus Hashluchim. They had negative interest in the idea. Though they had more interest in my other idea about getting corporate sponsors and naming rights for the kinus hashluchim.
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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2021, 11:02:27 AM »
I mentioned it to some of the powers that be when I gave a seminar at the Kinus Hashluchim. They had negative interest in the idea. Though they had more interest in my other idea about getting corporate sponsors and naming rights for the kinus hashluchim.

Speaking to the wrong powers. Different departments.
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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2021, 11:04:08 AM »
I mentioned it to some of the powers that be when I gave a seminar at the Kinus Hashluchim. They had negative interest in the idea. Though they had more interest in my other idea about getting corporate sponsors and naming rights for the kinus hashluchim.
Usually when you post it on Twitter you get your message quite clear. Maybe try that!

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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2021, 11:04:13 AM »
Speaking to the wrong powers. Different departments.
And the right powers are?
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Re: Lubavitch Inreach/Kinus Anash
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2021, 11:06:33 AM »
Usually when you post it on Twitter you get your message quite clear. Maybe try that!
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