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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #100 on: December 25, 2011, 12:30:41 PM »
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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #101 on: December 25, 2011, 12:36:34 PM »
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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #102 on: December 25, 2011, 01:18:53 PM »
1) I hear your point - although there is a concept of hating rishoim, there's also the concept of loving all jews no matter what. But certainly, displaying that love for the purpose of bringing them close to yiddishkeit covers you on all fronts.

2) aren't aveiros destructive? Aren't they the source of all suffering? Every person who gets sick, every person murdered...it's because of aveiros. Now true, that's also because of aveiros WE do; but that doesn't mean we shouldn't (theoretically, I don't think most of us are on this level) be horrified when we see it being done.

3) Even if something isn't technically lifnei iveir, if we have a choice, we still wouldn't want to be involved in something horrifying. Again, where to draw this line is something that needs to be discussed with one's rebbe, but do you disagree with the basic concept?

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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #103 on: December 25, 2011, 01:22:58 PM »
1) I hear your point - although there is a concept of hating rishoim, there's also the concept of loving all jews no matter what. But certainly, displaying that love for the purpose of bringing them close to yiddishkeit covers you on all fronts.

2) aren't aveiros destructive? Aren't they the source of all suffering? Every person who gets sick, every person murdered...it's because of aveiros. Now true, that's also because of aveiros WE do; but that doesn't mean we shouldn't (theoretically, I don't think most of us are on this level) be horrified when we see it being done.

3) Even if something isn't technically lifnei iveir, if we have a choice, we still wouldn't want to be involved in something horrifying. Again, where to draw this line is something that needs to be discussed with one's rebbe, but do you disagree with the basic concept?
I hate to jump back into this thread after claiming to be done, but would you attribute something such as the holocaust to aveiros?
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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #104 on: December 25, 2011, 01:26:24 PM »
As far as I know, anything negative in this world, any evil, is the result of hashem's good being hidden. And that only happens through aveiros.

Now, which aveiros? Not a clue. You can't point fingers.

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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #105 on: December 25, 2011, 01:30:21 PM »
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #106 on: December 25, 2011, 01:40:53 PM »
An interesting point. I would add that in jewish thought, punishment is never a concept of, "oh, you did something bad, now I'm going to get you back!" It is always (again, as far as I know) connected with the idea of tikkun, in one way or another - an opportunity to repair the damage done. Or, opportunities to make up for what was lost, or other opportunities missed.

Even on a simple level, things like the numerous pogroms we've suffered throughout the ages have helped us remember who we are, have stopped us from forgetting. Depending on your perspective, that's either a horrible punishment, or a true kindness. Without that, we might have been completely lost.

As an aside, regarding the issue of r' akiva's students and the second beis hamikdash, many discuss the idea that issues bein adam l'chaveiro are generally the earliest symptoms of a deep disconnection with spirituality and god in general. And galus does help with that, r' desller discusses this extensively (he connects it with the idea of being a giver/taker, it comes up in his piece on succos, among other times).


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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #107 on: December 25, 2011, 02:41:31 PM »
All right - I admit. I posted after Shabbos here in EY while it was still Shabbos in the US and did not wait 72...I will try and remember next time.

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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #108 on: December 25, 2011, 04:07:49 PM »
All right - I admit. I posted after Shabbos here in EY while it was still Shabbos in the US and did not wait 72...I will try and remember next time.

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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #109 on: December 25, 2011, 04:45:53 PM »
OK LETS CUT THIS TOPIC >:(

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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #110 on: December 25, 2011, 05:25:41 PM »
OK LETS CUT THIS TOPIC >:(

Are you trying to start a machlokes about the best way to conduct a bris?
If so, please start a new thread.

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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #111 on: December 25, 2011, 05:43:43 PM »
Ok now its time for my post too.
Just a little message to the OP, you must be such a ...... person to come up even with such a thought, to start such a topic.
I'm currently posting from Israel, and have also sometimes thought about the posts being posted on shabos, now if your smart enough and frequent enough on the forums, you already know a little which are posters from Israel, and btw, you can also notice which are gentiles from some of their prior comments or questions, and if you not smart enough than keep your "fingers" shut of creating such threads!!! I, never in my wildest thought, did I suspect that any of the posters were being mechalel shabos!! Shame on you! Yes!

[I'm being dan lekaf zchus that you were just very tired whilst posting, and didnt think well.] 

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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #112 on: December 25, 2011, 06:23:31 PM »
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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #113 on: December 25, 2011, 07:37:59 PM »
I've bumped on a acript which according to your IP-origin, will block access, or forward you to a page that says closed on shabbos, if in your timezone is shabbos.

They want a donation for it.

I believe b&h uses it.

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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #114 on: December 25, 2011, 07:41:56 PM »
I've bumped on a acript which according to your IP-origin, will block access, or forward you to a page that says closed on shabbos, if in your timezone is shabbos.

They want a donation for it.

I believe b&h uses it.
Sure, but will it also ask if you would rather have a cheeseburger or pastrami-on-rye?
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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #115 on: December 25, 2011, 11:44:51 PM »
Are you trying to start a machlokes about the best way to conduct a bris?
If so, please start a new thread.

 ??? oh....u were trying to be funny   ::)

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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #116 on: December 26, 2011, 02:24:06 AM »
??? oh....u were trying to be funny   ::)

And I'm only slightly better in real life...

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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #117 on: December 26, 2011, 08:41:21 AM »
I've bumped on a acript which according to your IP-origin, will block access, or forward you to a page that says closed on shabbos, if in your timezone is shabbos.

They want a donation for it.

I believe b&h uses it.

Calling  JOLLYJ !!

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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
« Reply #118 on: December 28, 2011, 11:54:14 PM »
Ok- I got the perfect solution:

Jolly person (the op) should make a list of who he/she suspects of being mechalel shabbos (give us a list of usernames that posted when it was shabbos) and then those users need to defend themselves and explain why they felt the urge to post on shabbos- bec of course guilty until proven innocent in jollys world.

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Re: POSTS ON SHABBOS!!!
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