Ben & Jerry’s To Stop Selling In "Occupied Palestinian Territory"

[ExGingi]

You don't eat OU?

I wonder if now that they don't use the English logo of B&J they could export to the US (and other countries). That would be a sweet revenge.

[mgarfin]

Now if only the Kashrus was upgraded, they might actually have a huge boost.

I remember from 10 years ago they had belz on some items.
Is that not the case anymore?

[ExGingi]

I remember from 10 years ago they had belz on some items.
Is that not the case anymore?

Not as far as I know. Not really considered a Hechsher up to par (Poland cheese fiasco is just an example that went semi public).

[mgarfin]

Not as far as I know. Not really considered a Hechsher up to par (Poland cheese fiasco is just an example that went semi public).

If understand you right You're saying two things in one sentence.

1. you don't think it has belz
2. Belz is not up to par. Par with OU or בד"ץ עדה החרדית / Rubin?

[ExGingi]

I understand you right You're saying two things in one sentence.

1. you don't think it has belz
2. Belz is not up to par. Par with OU or בד"ץ עדה החרדית / Rubin?

You misunderstood me.

1. As far as I know, nothing changed still has belz on some products.
2. Belz (not talking about the Chassidus c"v, but about the Israeli hechsher) not up to par period. Not even in the same planet as any of the ones you mentioned, let alone ballpark. (which I presume is why @Dan referenced OU, as it is by leaps and bounds more reputable).

FTR: The "Poland fiasco" I keep on referring to involved two so-called "mehadrin" hechsherim. A visit by an inspector from the Israeli rabbanut found the operation to be not up to par with any kashrus standards, let along "mehadrin" or CY.

[Ygold]

You misunderstood me.

1. As far as I know, nothing changed still has belz on some products.
2. Belz (not talking about the Chassidus c"v, but about the Israeli hechsher) not up to par period. Not even in the same planet as any of the ones you mentioned, let alone ballpark. (which I presume is why @Dan referenced OU, as it is by leaps and bounds more reputable).

FTR: The "Poland fiasco" I keep on referring to involved two so-called "mehadrin" hechsherim. A visit by an inspector from the Israeli rabbanut found the operation to be not up to par with any kashrus standards, let along "mehadrin" or CY.

What's this Fiasco you're referring to? What happened?

[ExGingi]

What's this Fiasco you're referring to? What happened?

IYKYK. Many people that are constantly interested in Kashrus heard about it/read the report.

I basically summarized it when I wrote:

A visit by an inspector from the Israeli rabbanut found the operation to be not up to par with any kashrus standards, let along "mehadrin" or CY.

[gozalim]

You don't eat OU?

in israel?

[Dan]

in israel?

The OU says the standards are identical and that the difference are the politics involved.

[AsherO]

The OU says the standards are identical and that the difference are the politics involved.

One difference I could think of is the schechita standards of an OU-supervised restaurant in the US (particularly in the tri-state area), might differ from an OU-supervised restaurant in Israel. Maybe the official baseline policies are the same but the effective standards likely vary in this regard.

[gozalim]

mitzvos hatluyos ba'aretz?

[gozalim]

The OU says the standards are identical and that the difference are the politics involved.

of course they say that

[AsherO]

mitzvos hatluyos ba'aretz?

Especially this year

[JMHO]

of course they say that

So you don't trust them at all?

[Dan]

of course they say that

Do you have information that proves otherwise?
Or perhaps people that only eat Eida/Landau turn their nose at the OU because it's lower than their standards?

[Ver hut gazugt]

Do you have information that proves otherwise?
Or perhaps people that only eat Eida/Landau turn their nose at the OU because it's lower than their standards?

I have heard from people in kashrus, not sure if this is still true. In EY they rely on video cameras for CY.

[gozalim]

Do you have information that proves otherwise?
Or perhaps people that only eat Eida/Landau turn their nose at the OU because it's lower than their standards?

accusations might very well be false. but protestations by the defendant are hardly going to be very convincing

[Dan]

accusations might very well be false. but protestations by the defendant are hardly going to be very convincing

So, do you not eat OU food in the US?
Or do you trust their kashrus in the US, but do not trust their US employees that OU Israel has the same standards as OU in chu"l?

[mgarfin]

https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/ben-jerrys-foundation-president-steered-funds-to-his-own-charity/

[JMHO]

I have heard from people in kashrus, not sure if this is still true. In EY they rely on video cameras for CY.

Do the OU people in Kashrus not count?