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BDE Jackie Mason
« on: July 24, 2021, 10:19:28 PM »
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/jackie-mason-rabbi-turned-contentious-comedian-dies-at-93-1234988070/
How old was he, in this article it says he was born in 1928, but in other articles it says he was born in 1931 and was 93 years old

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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2021, 10:24:47 PM »
How old was he, in this article it says he was born in 1928, but in other articles it says he was born in 1931 and was 93 years old


They either didn't do the math or think it's 2024...

ETA: You're not the only one who's confused:
https://www.facebook.com/madhotcomicsplus/posts/1468764530143705
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/148829962675555370/
« Last Edit: July 24, 2021, 10:28:44 PM by AsherO »
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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2021, 10:43:56 PM »
They either didn't do the math or think it's 2024...

ETA: You're not the only one who's confused:
https://www.facebook.com/madhotcomicsplus/posts/1468764530143705
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/148829962675555370/
Either hes 93 or 90
What I don't get is how the fake news writes born in 1931 and was 93 years old. Do they not know any math? It wasn't only 1 publication, I saw it on a few different websites
« Last Edit: July 24, 2021, 10:48:31 PM by neveryou »

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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2021, 10:51:30 PM »
Either hes 93 or 90
What I don't get is how the fake news writes born in 1931 and was 93 years old. Do they not know any math? It wasn't only 1 publication, I saw it on a few different websites

Speaks to the quality of "news" posts nowadays. These are articles are compiled by human drones, you often see errors related to this, like a paragraph being repeated with minor differences.
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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2021, 08:00:38 AM »
I canít stop thinking about Jackie Mason. There is one thing that keeps replaying in my head, and itís really frightening.

I know itís not proper to say anything negative about a recently departed person, but I donít mean this as criticism to him, rather as a lesson to us.

Jackie Mason had so much potential. Would you not be willing to give just about anything to get semichah from Rav Moshe Feinstein? He clearly was a brilliant Torah scholar, and he couldíve shaped the frum world had he dedicated his life to loftier ambitions.

Picture the scene yesterday, when his soul ascended and he stood before the heavenly Court. Imagine the crushing realization of the contrast between his potential and his chosen life.

Donít we all have such regrets-waiting-to-happen, albeit hopefully on a smaller scale? Are we also going to wait until itís too late before we fix the things we will regret?

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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2021, 08:30:31 AM »
I canít stop thinking about Jackie Mason. There is one thing that keeps replaying in my head, and itís really frightening.

I know itís not proper to say anything negative about a recently departed person, but I donít mean this as criticism to him, rather as a lesson to us.

Jackie Mason had so much potential. Would you not be willing to give just about anything to get semichah from Rav Moshe Feinstein? He clearly was a brilliant Torah scholar, and he couldíve shaped the frum world had he dedicated his life to loftier ambitions.

Picture the scene yesterday, when his soul ascended and he stood before the heavenly Court. Imagine the crushing realization of the contrast between his potential and his chosen life.

Donít we all have such regrets-waiting-to-happen, albeit hopefully on a smaller scale? Are we also going to wait until itís too late before we fix the things we will regret?
I had to check the Wikipedia to know what you're talking about
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Mason
As a teenager, Mason worked as a busboy at resorts in the Borscht Belt in New York's Catskill Mountains.[3] He recalled: "Twenty minutes, at the Pearl Lake Hotel. I broke all the dishes. They made me a lifeguard. 'But I can't swim', I told the owner. 'Don't tell the guests', he says.

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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2021, 09:00:34 AM »
I canít stop thinking about Jackie Mason. There is one thing that keeps replaying in my head, and itís really frightening.

I know itís not proper to say anything negative about a recently departed person, but I donít mean this as criticism to him, rather as a lesson to us.

Jackie Mason had so much potential. Would you not be willing to give just about anything to get semichah from Rav Moshe Feinstein? He clearly was a brilliant Torah scholar, and he couldíve shaped the frum world had he dedicated his life to loftier ambitions.

Picture the scene yesterday, when his soul ascended and he stood before the heavenly Court. Imagine the crushing realization of the contrast between his potential and his chosen life.

Donít we all have such regrets-waiting-to-happen, albeit hopefully on a smaller scale? Are we also going to wait until itís too late before we fix the things we will regret?
I had similar thoughts last night
But regarding potential, Iíd say the scariest story that I ever heard, is when the Netziv put out his Sefer, he said that he was almost a shoemaker. He said he could just imagine if he wouldíve been a shoemaker, going up to shamayim after 120 and they would ask him, where are your Seforim that you were able to write and he wouldnít know what they were talking about.

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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2021, 10:42:43 AM »
I canít stop thinking about Jackie Mason. There is one thing that keeps replaying in my head, and itís really frightening.

I know itís not proper to say anything negative about a recently departed person, but I donít mean this as criticism to him, rather as a lesson to us.

Jackie Mason had so much potential. Would you not be willing to give just about anything to get semichah from Rav Moshe Feinstein? He clearly was a brilliant Torah scholar, and he couldíve shaped the frum world had he dedicated his life to loftier ambitions.

Picture the scene yesterday, when his soul ascended and he stood before the heavenly Court. Imagine the crushing realization of the contrast between his potential and his chosen life.

Donít we all have such regrets-waiting-to-happen, albeit hopefully on a smaller scale? Are we also going to wait until itís too late before we fix the things we will regret?

What do we know about his mission in life? Hopefully his neshama fulfilled its purpose.
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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2021, 10:49:29 AM »
What do we know about his mission in life? Hopefully his neshama fulfilled its purpose.
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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2021, 10:51:57 AM »
What do we know about his mission in life? Hopefully his neshama fulfilled its purpose.

Just to clarify, I totally agree with the hypothesis of how great it would be had he used his talents/efforts for Torah causes.
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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2021, 11:59:54 AM »
I canít stop thinking about Jackie Mason. There is one thing that keeps replaying in my head, and itís really frightening.

I know itís not proper to say anything negative about a recently departed person, but I donít mean this as criticism to him, rather as a lesson to us.

Jackie Mason had so much potential. Would you not be willing to give just about anything to get semichah from Rav Moshe Feinstein? He clearly was a brilliant Torah scholar, and he couldíve shaped the frum world had he dedicated his life to loftier ambitions.

Picture the scene yesterday, when his soul ascended and he stood before the heavenly Court. Imagine the crushing realization of the contrast between his potential and his chosen life.

Donít we all have such regrets-waiting-to-happen, albeit hopefully on a smaller scale? Are we also going to wait until itís too late before we fix the things we will regret?
You cant judge the times he was living in. Its not fair.
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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2021, 12:18:37 PM »
At this point, let's let him get to gan eden easily, and we'll take lessons later.

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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2021, 12:29:03 PM »
At this point, let's let him get to gan eden easily, and we'll take lessons later.
You think people taking lessons is going to effect how easily he gets there?

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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2021, 12:41:55 PM »
You think people taking lessons is going to effect how easily he gets there?

You think the judgement that those lessons are based on is doing the neshama any favors? His neshama was zoche to be a musmach of Rav Moshe. Learn some Torah in his honor and live your life the best way you know how.
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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2021, 12:53:26 PM »
You cant judge the times he was living in. Its not fair.

FTFY

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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2021, 01:02:32 PM »
You think the judgement that those lessons are based on is doing the neshama any favors? His neshama was zoche to be a musmach of Rav Moshe. Learn some Torah in his honor and live your life the best way you know how.
There is no way he was a musmach of Reb Moshe either. Maybe someone in his family was, but not him.
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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2021, 01:52:24 PM »
They either didn't do the math or think it's 2024...

ETA: You're not the only one who's confused:
https://www.facebook.com/madhotcomicsplus/posts/1468764530143705
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/148829962675555370/
His bar mitzvah was in תש"א so he was born in 28 and was 93 years old
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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2021, 02:45:31 PM »
His bar mitzvah was in תש"א so he was born in 28 and was 93 years old
Look at perek  ל"ז
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Re: BDE Jackie Mason
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