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NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« on: August 03, 2021, 10:55:39 AM »
Mayor Bill de Blasio announced Tuesday morning that New York City will require proof of vaccination for people participating in indoor activities, including at restaurants, gyms and performances, his latest attempt to spur more vaccinations. The mandate also applies to workers at those places.

The policy is similar to mandates issued in France and Italy last month and is believed to be the first of its kind in the United States.

The program will start later this month, and after a transition period enforcement will begin in mid-September, when schools are expected to reopen and more workers could return to offices in Manhattan.

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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2021, 10:58:27 AM »
Mayor Bill de Blasio announced Tuesday morning that New York City will require proof of vaccination for people participating in indoor activities, including at restaurants, gyms and performances, his latest attempt to spur more vaccinations. The mandate also applies to workers at those places.

The policy is similar to mandates issued in France and Italy last month and is believed to be the first of its kind in the United States.

The program will start later this month, and after a transition period enforcement will begin in mid-September, when schools are expected to reopen and more workers could return to offices in Manhattan.


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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2021, 11:07:30 AM »
Is NYC gonna get mass protests like France?
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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2021, 11:13:51 AM »
I remember when it was still called a conspiracy

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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2021, 11:16:16 AM »
This is where that Excelsior pass comes in handy.

Indeed. Shoving a large-screen phone up deblasio's <redacted by mods> is a lot more satisfying than just a bit of paper.
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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2021, 11:17:23 AM »
The goalposts move again,

Whats the next step going to be once everyone is vaccinated and there's still corona?

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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2021, 11:22:25 AM »
The goalposts move again,

Whats the next step going to be once everyone is vaccinated and there's still corona?
The goal is to stop deaths and hospitalizations.
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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2021, 11:30:31 AM »
The goal is to stop deaths and hospitalizations.
Why don't they mandate flu shots for everybody?

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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2021, 11:32:09 AM »
Why don't they mandate flu shots for everybody?
Are you being intentionally obtuse?
When's the last time the flu overflowed hospitals and morgues?
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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2021, 11:36:08 AM »
Why don't they mandate flu shots for everybody?

Did the flu kill 600k+ Americans in 18 months, despite extensive mitigation measures? (Those measures ironically drastically reduced flu spread compared to prior years)
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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2021, 11:39:57 AM »
Did the flu kill 600k+ Americans in 18 months, despite extensive mitigation measures? (Those measures ironically drastically reduced flu spread compared to prior years)
How many people did the flu kill since there was a vaccine for the flu? I can probably guess alot more than corona, so maybe we should have mandates for the flu shot

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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2021, 11:42:42 AM »
How many people did the flu kill since there was a vaccine for the flu? I can probably guess alot more than corona, so maybe we should have mandates for the flu shot
I know, right? also cars kill more people than corona and we don't ban those

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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2021, 11:44:35 AM »
The goal is to stop deaths and hospitalizations.

I'm certifiably pro-vax and have personally tried to help as many people as I can get the shot. I think this is a terrible step and a dangerous road to go down. As we have seen, giving the government power to make sweeping restrictions on its citizens that weren't voted for, even in the name of public health, can lead to them doing things that aren't in public interests. This applies to covid related restrictions and others. We already had one NY mayor who was on the path to banning milah under the guise of public health.

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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2021, 11:48:09 AM »
Now that we know that vaccinated people can also infect others, has the goal switched from “don’t kill others” to “save yourself” ?

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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2021, 11:49:46 AM »
I'm certifiably pro-vax and have personally tried to help as many people as I can get the shot. I think this is a terrible step and a dangerous road to go down. As we have seen, giving the government power to make sweeping restrictions on its citizens that weren't voted for, even in the name of public health, can lead to them doing things that aren't in public interests. This applies to covid related restrictions and others. We already had one NY mayor who was on the path to banning milah under the guise of public health.
As I wrote on DDMS, I'm very uneasy with this.
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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2021, 11:51:26 AM »
Will the sherriffs and health inspectors target the Jews for this rule and not the goyim like last summer doing the riots?

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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2021, 11:59:09 AM »
Will the sherriffs and health inspectors target the Jews for this rule and not the goyim like last summer doing the riots?
That depends if they want to go home unharmed with their cars intact.

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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2021, 12:07:26 PM »
As we have seen, giving the government power to make sweeping restrictions on its citizens that weren't voted for, even in the name of public health, can lead to them doing things that aren't in public interests.
On the contrary, we've always given the government power to regulate its citizens in the name of public health.  In the early years of New York/ New Amsterdam, regulations aimed to protect against fire and water pollution.  In the 1800s, when it became clear that certain diseases could be transmitted from one person to another, additional restrictions were put in place.  We did vote for these, in effect, when we voted with our feet to live close to other people.

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Re: NYC To Require Proof Of vaccination For Indoor Activities
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2021, 12:11:00 PM »
Will the sherriffs and health inspectors target the Jews for this rule and not the goyim like last summer doing the riots?
Or is it the rabbanim who target frum Jews, warning them to avoid most "restaurants, gyms and performances"?