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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #260 on: August 25, 2021, 10:42:00 PM »
Just look at how he was vilified so much more than some others with similar policies
Who's policies affected ddfrs nearly as much as Cuomo?

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #261 on: August 25, 2021, 10:46:34 PM »
Who's policies affected ddfrs nearly as much as Cuomo?
President?
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #262 on: August 25, 2021, 11:17:59 PM »
Who's policies affected ddfrs nearly as much as Cuomo?
Murphy, but either way I should clarify that I meant his nursing home policy
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #263 on: August 25, 2021, 11:30:59 PM »
President?
We are talking about infringing on people's way of life

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #264 on: August 25, 2021, 11:32:01 PM »
Murphy, but either way I should clarify that I meant his nursing home policy
They had inspectors going around fining shuls and stores in new jersey?

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #265 on: August 25, 2021, 11:36:26 PM »
They had inspectors going around fining shuls and stores in new jersey?
There were fines issued but he did not have the same anti semitism issue. They weren't exactly the same. Either way my point was expressed poorly. My point was that they had similar deaths in nursing homes at the beginning of the pandemic and did not get the same treatment. His arrogance brought the ficus on his failures
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #268 on: August 28, 2021, 10:23:49 PM »
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #269 on: August 28, 2021, 10:39:55 PM »
FL
#1 in the country 7 day average deaths
#1 in the country 7 day average cases
#3 in the country for total cases
#4 in the country for total deaths

These numbers are mindboggling and this moron still won't do anything.

If Biden deserves to be impeached over Afghanistan this moron deserves to get a lethal injection over covid.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #270 on: August 28, 2021, 11:10:40 PM »
If Biden deserves to be impeached over Afghanistan this moron deserves to get a lethal injection over covid.
can we please not use such language even for a joke ?

Separately he’s been pretty outspoken on people getting the vaccine.

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #271 on: August 29, 2021, 08:00:26 PM »

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #272 on: August 29, 2021, 08:04:17 PM »

Jefferson Public Radio reported that in a meeting earlier this month with local health officials, Josephine County Commissioner Herman Baertschiger Jr., a former leader of the minority Republicans in the Oregon Senate, said: “I’m not going to hog-tie anybody and give them a vaccination.”

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #274 on: September 01, 2021, 09:13:14 AM »
https://news.yahoo.com/statistical-sleight-hand-florida-changed-064558031.html
Maybe someone can explain this a little better than they did. The way I am reading it is that they moved from counting a death on the day it was reported which can be a few weeks after the person died to counting it on the day it occurred. This seems more accurate to me but will create a lag in data and there will be constant revisions.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #275 on: September 01, 2021, 09:18:45 AM »
Maybe someone can explain this a little better than they did. The way I am reading it is that they moved from counting a death on the day it was reported which can be a few weeks after the person died to counting it on the day it occurred. This seems more accurate to me but will create a lag in data and there will be constant revisions.
What they are saying, now that it changed it will take weeks/months for the current deaths to be reported. This makes it look like they are now in a decline. It is confusing.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #276 on: September 01, 2021, 09:20:06 AM »
What they are saying, now that it changed it will take weeks/months for the current deaths to be reported. This makes it look like they are now in a decline. It is confusing.
But the other way around will show what happened weeks ago not now. Either way we don't know what is happening now.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #277 on: September 01, 2021, 09:21:36 AM »
Maybe someone can explain this a little better than they did. The way I am reading it is that they moved from counting a death on the day it was reported which can be a few weeks after the person died to counting it on the day it occurred. This seems more accurate to me but will create a lag in data and there will be constant revisions.

This is essentially correct. At the end of the day, the numbers will all add up, but the data becomes useless for anything other than a postmortem. The "benefit" is that there are fewer daily headlines with gaudy death tolls, which means less urgency on the ground and less political pressure.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #278 on: September 01, 2021, 09:22:15 AM »
This is essentially correct. At the end of the day, the numbers will all add up, but the data becomes useless for anything other than a postmortem. The "benefit" is that there are fewer daily headlines with gaudy death tolls, which means less urgency on the ground and less political pressure.
Either way it is only a postmortem
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #279 on: September 01, 2021, 09:30:31 AM »
Either way it is only a postmortem

Yes, but when data on deaths lags by 2-4 weeks, you still get useful data during each wave, which can help guide responses. The way they are doing it now, the data is too convoluted to make any real use of until it's over and we're looking to see what went wrong.

ETA: Ultimately, deaths aren't a super helpful stat, so this isn't actually costing many lives, especially in FL where there is no response to waves, anyway. It's just a distasteful political maneuver.
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