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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #640 on: May 18, 2022, 09:28:27 PM »
Fwiu people can protest anywhere until the police tell them to leave a residential neighborhood.

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(4) Before a person may be arrested for a violation of this section, a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(1), or a local, state, federal, or military law enforcement agency must go as near to the person as may be done with safety and shall command any person picketing or protesting before or about the dwelling of a person to immediately and peaceably disperse. If any such person does not thereupon immediately and peaceably disperse, he or she may be arrested for a violation of this section.

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #641 on: May 18, 2022, 09:31:18 PM »
It doesn't only target abortion protests, it includes any protest in front of a residence.
Incorrect, protests are not banned.
Does the ban just ban “unruly mobs” or is it more broad?
Very broad and that will be the problem.
(2) It is unlawful for a person to picket or protest before or about the dwelling of any person with the intent to harass or disturb that person in his or her dwelling.

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #642 on: May 18, 2022, 09:58:54 PM »
Very broad and that will be the problem.

What problems do you foresee?

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #643 on: May 18, 2022, 11:21:56 PM »
"Sending unruly mobs to private residences, like we have seen with the angry crowds in front of the homes of Supreme Court justices, is inappropriate,” DeSantis said in an email to news outlets.
He connected his signing to the current protests in DC, but those weren't the impetus for the bill.

It was motivated by events in Florida in the past year: Protests outside the homes of Senators Rubio and Scott, by Trump supporters wanting the election overturned, and protests outside the home of Board of Education members who supported masking in the schools. 

The bill got bipartisan support, approved 76:41 in the House, 28:3 in the Senate.

But it would have been embarrassing for DeSantis to sign it, since the protests were led by his own supporters (proTrump, antimaskers).  Conveniently for him, he was able to announce that he signed it after seeing the crowds in front of SC homes, and didn't have to antagonize his base.

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #644 on: May 19, 2022, 12:16:00 AM »
I don't see an issue. Protesting against someone outside their house isn't free speech it's harassment. Protest literally anywhere else. If anything, free speech will be better protected if mobs aren't allowed to protest outside the home of someone that exercised their free speech rights.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #645 on: May 19, 2022, 01:29:05 PM »
Fair enough. Though I still think you guys are under playing the politics behind the timing and accompanying rhetoric

Well, the guy is a politician ya know
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #646 on: May 19, 2022, 08:28:54 PM »
IANAL, but I think it would pass constitutional muster. Time, manner, and place restrictions on speech are allowed.
Harassment isn't legal and protesting in front of someones property is nothing less then harassment
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #647 on: May 19, 2022, 08:37:19 PM »
Harassment isn't legal and protesting in front of someones property is nothing less then harassment

If it isn’t legal then why the need for a new law?


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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #648 on: May 19, 2022, 08:51:01 PM »
If it isn’t legal then why the need for a new law?


To define it as what it is
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #650 on: August 29, 2022, 06:28:03 PM »
Harassment isn't legal and protesting in front of someones property is nothing less then harassment
will this apply to get-refuser protests?

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #651 on: August 29, 2022, 07:46:50 PM »
@mods please change the title it is inappropriate

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #652 on: August 29, 2022, 07:53:31 PM »
@mods please change the title it is inappropriate

Why? Santis too close to saint? Oops sorry for saying that in elul.

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #653 on: August 29, 2022, 07:59:39 PM »
@mods please change the title it is inappropriate
A year later?  :)
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #654 on: August 29, 2022, 08:04:10 PM »
@mods please change the title it is inappropriate
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #655 on: September 15, 2022, 10:46:34 AM »
Maybe #DeathSantis should spend millions to get rid of this guy instead of people his state told could vote?
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/stephen-clay-mcgehee-florida-campaign-finance/
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #656 on: September 15, 2022, 02:06:55 PM »
Maybe #DeathSantis should spend millions to get rid of this guy instead of people his state told could vote?
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/stephen-clay-mcgehee-florida-campaign-finance/

What does this have to do with Desantis?

Also, the way this article was written, I expected to read that  campaigns spent thousands of dollars with this guy. In fact they paid $140 for a license to his software. Chances are that they don't even know his name.

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #657 on: September 15, 2022, 02:30:56 PM »
What does this have to do with Desantis?
He is the governor. It is the most widely used campaign finance software in the state. They (R's and D's) should not be using anything associated with this POS. If the state has millions to spend to find 20 people who were told they could vote, claim it is voter fraud then then they should have money to spend to get rid of this POS.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #658 on: September 15, 2022, 03:32:39 PM »
He is the governor. It is the most widely used campaign finance software in the state. They (R's and D's) should not be using anything associated with this POS.

1 - I agree that people should not use this software.

2 - I do not think that the state should put him out of business. It is both unnecessary (I don't think he is going to get any business, now that his views were made public) and an inappropriate use of government power.

If the state has millions to spend to find 20 people who were told they could vote, claim it is voter fraud

3 - I don't know what you are referring to (msn links are blocked)

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #659 on: September 18, 2022, 03:19:32 AM »
@mods please change the title it is inappropriate
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