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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #80 on: August 08, 2021, 05:13:27 PM »
Gonna say this again and again, people act as if the lockdowns and mask mandates are no lose ways to save lives. They are costly. There's a risk assessment to be done. seats.
The risk assessment was done.  Over and over again.  I looked into this after you mentioned it last week, and virtually every article I found about masking kids in school said these are the risks, these are the benefits.

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #81 on: August 08, 2021, 05:34:40 PM »
Did they order the kids be put to death or something along the lines of removing life support?
Same thing. Especially when they won't allow them to be on life support privately funded or even be removed from the country to a different country that is willing to keep them alive.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #82 on: August 08, 2021, 05:42:42 PM »
Same thing. Especially when they won't allow them to be on life support privately funded or even be removed from the country to a different country that is willing to keep them alive.
Completely different. The fight about life support has gone on forever.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #83 on: August 08, 2021, 05:47:45 PM »
Completely different. The fight about life support has gone on forever.
-1000. Pulling the plug against the family's wishes is murder. It's a decision that government should have no power to make. Ever.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #84 on: August 08, 2021, 06:10:15 PM »
The risk assessment was done.  Over and over again.  I looked into this after you mentioned it last week, and virtually every article I found about masking kids in school said these are the risks, these are the benefits.

I disagree with you vehemently. I didn't have time to respond to your post last week were you spoke about how initially we were worried about distance learning, masking, etc, but it turns out the kids handled it fine and it took getting used to.

This is just not true. Affluent areas did better than poorer areas, but the info coming in now is that kids are way behind academically. College admissions are down. Attendance at schools was down. Child abuse was up. Suicides - there are conflicting reports, some say it stayed he same, some say it went up. But anecdotally, I myself know of 2 suicides of Jewish teens that were directly caused by lockdowns.

Unfortunately I'm not able to track down the source for each tidbit here, as when I'm reading /listening I'm hardly thinking that I'll need to bookmark it to post on an online debate in a few months. Some of it came from reports from left leaning places like This American Life, and the Atlantic, iinm.

Anecdotally, distance learning for people who had the means to have devices for every child and have a parent stay home, was very much a mixed bag. My daughter, for instance, had one teacher who adapted amazingly, and another who fell apart and couldn't manage the classroom at all. It was an absolute joke. Even for the one who was good, she learned virtually nothing, and it was mostly fun and games to get through the time.

And please post these studies analyzing the developmental drawbacks of masking or lack thereof. Not one single kindergarten parent, teacher, or principal I've spoken to thinks masks should be worn by kids. And for elementary, most are no longer pro masking because adults have the option to get vaccinated.

Forgive me for sounding like a libtard, but much of the pro mitigation crowd speak from positions of privalege. It's no big deal to buy boxes and boxes of masks, or have washing machines to keep washing them. It's no big deal to spare an iPad for all the kids to learn on zoom. There's a backyard to play in, they don't live in 2 bedroom apartments. The parents have jobs that can be done remotely, etc.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #86 on: August 08, 2021, 07:14:37 PM »
To only start after NY's wave subsided? Really?
Yes.  It was before I had signed up here, I think it was yuneeq who had posted a link to a site that updated cases every day, graphed them, gave the rate of increase/decrease.  And I was refreshing every day, okay, TBH, several times a day, and watching our daily cases going up, but a relative blip, nowhere near as high or as rapidly as in NY, and then going down, so we had clearly dodged that bullet, and then Memorial Day, see the line for June 1 - DeSantis declared no-more-covid, opened everything, and then we got that surge, cases way up, hospitals announce no empty beds.  New York didn't know how to prevent the surge in March/April, but by the end of May we did and could have avoided it. 


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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #87 on: August 08, 2021, 10:34:33 PM »
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #88 on: August 09, 2021, 03:36:12 PM »
Shouldn't it also be #DeathEdwards O right he is the Democratic Governor in Louisiana so the Media doesn't care! Sorry

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #89 on: August 09, 2021, 04:01:50 PM »
Feel free to start a thread for him.
Why is it always the media this and the media that?
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #90 on: August 09, 2021, 04:29:17 PM »
Feel free to start a thread for him.
Why is it always the media this and the media that?
Because who else is it? no else cares about what the Governor of FL or of LA decide about their State! and no one cares how many people attend a party because it was fine because they invited a sophisticated, vaccinated crowd.!!!
But again any restrictions are not made for the elites! that means sophisticated Democrats!

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #91 on: August 09, 2021, 04:34:24 PM »
Because who else is it? no else cares about what the Governor of FL or of LA decide about their State! and no one cares how many people attend a party because it was fine because they invited a sophisticated, vaccinated crowd.!!!
But again any restrictions are not made for the elites! that means sophisticated Democrats!
When NY and CA were at the top that is all that was talked about. FL is now the epicenter so of course they will be talked about.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #92 on: August 09, 2021, 04:37:25 PM »
I am starting to think he wants people to die so the current WH looks bad.

I doubt its as evil as that. He just thinks his voters would rather people die than pay a price they consider to heavy to save them.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #93 on: August 09, 2021, 04:39:16 PM »
I doubt its as evil as that. He just thinks his voters would rather people die than pay a price they consider to heavy to save them.

Ah, so he's not so evil to want people to die, but only so evil as to kill people because his voters are ok with the people dying. totally different and sane.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #94 on: August 09, 2021, 04:40:54 PM »
I wasn't being serious.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #95 on: August 09, 2021, 04:47:51 PM »
When NY and CA were at the top that is all that was talked about. FL is now the epicenter so of course they will be talked about.
Well so is CA and LA now, but dont hear much do you?

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #96 on: August 09, 2021, 04:49:52 PM »
Well so is CA and LA now, but dont hear much do you?
Lots of DDFers live in Florida.  And more are thinking of moving here.

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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #97 on: August 09, 2021, 04:55:08 PM »
Well so is CA and LA now, but dont hear much do you?
It is not just about the numbers but what you are trying to do to curb those numbers. This is a national crisis that needs to addressed. If you are at the top of list and not doing anything about, stopping others from trying then I would expect you to be the lead story.

Does most of the media have a bias, of course. The issue now is everyone is trying to use that as an excuse when FL deserves the heat they are taking.
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« Reply #98 on: August 09, 2021, 05:05:55 PM »
Ah, so he's not so evil to want people to die, but only so evil as to kill people because his voters are ok with the people dying. totally different and sane.
Most of the people on this forum are OK with people dying if the price is wearing a mask.
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Re: #DeathSantis
« Reply #99 on: August 09, 2021, 05:15:11 PM »
Most of the people on this forum are OK with people dying if the price is wearing a mask.

Hey mods, just a rule check. Am I allowed to call someone names if he accuses "most people on this forum" as being OK with murder? Afaf.
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